DID holliday touch the plate?

Answer 1

No. But the umpire probably wanted to end the game after 13 innings. He didn't have a good angle, but it's a bang-bang play.

How many times do umps get a close play at first place wrong? Or calls a strike when the ball is a foot off the plate? It's too fast sometimes to tell...

Answer 2

firstly why did holliday slide .You come in hard on that play but to answer the question. you can't tell from the angle we saw on TV . lets take a look at the big picture, the throw comes in a lollipop or rainbow throw from giles who usually has makes a much stronger, this is leaving the catcher waiting allowing the play to even be close Barrett does a great job blocking the plate and it looks as if Holliday DOES NOT TOUCH the plate ( however holiday admits to being spiked on the hand buy the catcher therefore meaning his hand was UNDER barretts foot9 so he could have touched the plate as he continued sliding ) nevertheless the ball gets away from Barrett who scrambles picks up the ball AND HERE IS WHERE THE FAULT LIES . BARRETT AS HE IS WALKING ON HIS KNEES OVER TO TAG HOLLIDAY LOOKS TO THE UMP FOR A CALL --- INSTED OF JUST MAKING THE TAG(which he never does by the way , watch the replay) bARRETT HAS TO GRAB THE BALL AND AGGRESIVLY TAG OUT HOLLIDAY AS IF HE KNOWS HE NEVER TOUCHED THE PLATE he basically through body language said to the ump he may have gotten past me that gave the ump the perfect oppurtunity to REPAY the Rockies for a missed call on the Jamie CARROLL double which replays show WAS A HOMERUN. HOW CAN SAN DIEGO OR ITS MANAGER ARGUE THAT CALL WITH THE HOME PLATE UMP WHEN THE CATCHER WHO WAS RIGHT THERE GAVE THEM NO GROUNDS TO AND LOOKED TO THE UMP FOR HELP INSTEAD OF MAKING IT LOOK AS IF HE KNEW HOLLIDAY MISSED THE PLAY AND TAGGED HIM that is where the intangibles come into game play, Johnny bench would have gary carter ivan rodriguez know YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT LOOK AS IF HE NEVER TOUCHE D THE PLATE not look to the ump as your chasing the runner on your knees with that look asking did he touch it. So if there is to put blame DO NOT BLAME THE UMP WHO WAS TRYING TO WATCH THE TAG AAANNNDDD SEE IF THE RUNNER TAGGED ALL IN LESS THAN ONE SECOND THE BLAME LIES ON THE PITCHER (throwing a first pitch meatball (what the hell was that)) the RIGHTFIELDER( for making a good accurate but not stronger throw causing the catcher to wait) and thirdly the catcher for reasons already discussed. on a side note the respondent who siad the catcher cant bloke the plate without the ball is mistaken that is sunday morning softball rules the mlb rule states if you are awaiting the throw you are allowed to block the plate if is close

Answer 3

After watching the play 83 times from 17 different angles in super slow motion, I think it's possible Holliday might have missed home plate by 2 inches, but, I would not stake my life on it.

The catcher did stick his foot out to block home, the runners hand did hit the catchers foot, "IF" the catchers foot had remained in position in front of the plate it "might" have looked like he blocked the plate. Instead the catchers foot slides all the way back across home, when the runners hand hits it.

>There is no way the human eye could slow that play down. What the umpire or anyone watching that play in "real" time would see is the runners hand hitting the catchers foot, then the catchers foot sliding back across home plate, with the runner sliding past.

Same for the HR/2B call ??

Answer 4

Very difficult to tell, but contrary to other answers on this page, the ump was in perfect position. The fact that he didn't make an immediate safe call let's us assume that Holliday never touched home base.

But that's not the point. Holliday's effort to tag homeplate was blocked by a defender without the ball. If the catcher had possession of the ball, he had the right to block the plate, but he didn't.

The ump's delayed call was therefore based on calling Holliday safe because he was illegally blocked from the plate.

Hope this clarifies things.

Answer 5

Unfortunately he DIDN'T. I feel badly for SD as they will feel cheated, and also for Colorado as now their special run will be tainted.
I say the umpire is to blame as it appeared he had it correct at first by not making a call as Holliday HAD NOT touched the plate. When the catcher went to go and tag an injured Holliday, that is when the umpire made his non chalant 'safe' call. I think he talked himself into making that call mentally in that quick split second in between the slide and the catcher recovering the ball.
Too bad for baseball.

Answer 6

No. Even Holliday didn't say he definitely touched home plate. Bud Black ought to protest the game.

Answer 7

Did you watch the interview with Craig Sager? Holliday admitted that Barrett stepped on his hand with his left foot. Look at where his foot is located. It's clearly off the plate. Barrett had a legitimate block and Holliday should've been called out at home. Too bad such an entertaining game had to end on a sour note.

Answer 8

It appears that he did not, but whether he did or not is irrelevant to the question of his being safe or out, for it is also true that a player without the ball blocked him from reaching the plate. If a player without the ball (whether it be the catcher or pitcher or shortstop or whoever) blocks you from reaching base, you are awarded that base, even if you don't touch the base on the play.

Answer 9

I think that it was poetic justice that the Rockies won...Earlier in the game the refs were in poor position and called a HOME RUN as a double when it clearly hit out of the field and bounced back in...The game should have been OVER hours before the slide...and the umpire was in perfect position to see it, and he says safe...ITS SAFE

Answer 10

I'm not in the mood for this sh*t. I have watched Padres games all year for nothing. 3 damn games to clinch, one strike away at one point, and our hall of a fame closer and cy young winning ace can't handle playing in high pressure situations let alone being in a nationally televised game.

This is why professional sports suck. 163 games and to lose a game on a miss call--by an umpire who MLB obviously deems as good at his job to work a tiebreaker game--to squeeze our ace with his tiny strike zone all game long and to lack consistency is ridiculous. Not to mention not having the balls to make a correct call on a game-ending play.

This is absolute bullsh*t!