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I heard a guy claim there was a thirteenth amendment to the Constitution of the United States called the Titles of Nobility. It is supposed to forbid anyone holding a title of nobility (like esquire) from a foreign country from holding political office in the USA. I can't find much about it that I can verify.

2007-10-01 07:53:08 · 5 answers · asked by Kenneth E 4 in Politics & Government Law & Ethics

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This was a proposed amendment which was never ratified (In part because the number of states in the union kept increasing during the process), so it never became part of the Constitution. It would prevent those holding or accepting titles of nobility from serving in office, but also force them to renounce their citizenship. Some claim that it was ratified, and that Virginia's ratification was destroyed in the War of 1812. They say it is being kept suppressed because lawyers, who use the title Esquire in the United States, don't want to give up their citizenship. Among the problems with this theory is that Esquire is not a title of nobility anywhere in the world.

2007-10-01 08:08:06 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

This appears in Article I, Section 9:

"No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State."

That means that the federal government can't make someone the Earl of Oklahoma, nor can Oklahoma. If Britain were to offer Senator Jubilation T. Cornpone a Knighthood, he couldn't accept without permission of Congress.

** oh, and as used domestically by attorneys, "Esquire" is not a title of nobility. It merely means that the person is a) willing to represent others as an attorney, and b) licensed to do so. The states are split as to whether calling oneself "esquire" when not licensed constitutes the unlawful practice of law. Any way you look at it, it isn't a title of nobility any more than calling oneself "doctor" or "realtor" or "licensed surveyor" is.

2007-10-01 15:05:19 · answer #2 · answered by open4one 7 · 1 0

The proposed amendment which was never ratified:

"If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive or retain, any title of nobility or honour, or shall, without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension, office or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them."

If you want more information about it here's a link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titles_of_Nobility_Amendment

2007-10-01 15:01:05 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The 13th Amendment scam derives from alleged “research” by David Dodge and Tom Dunn, a couple of wackos who chanced upon the “missing” 13th Amendment in a library in Maine, and concluded that not only had the Amendment been ratified, but that it also had been “hidden” for years by an obscure but elaborate and extensive conspiracy, and that the net effect of the Amendment was that no laws passed by Congress had any validity.

2007-10-01 14:59:08 · answer #4 · answered by hexeliebe 6 · 3 1

Get a copy of the US Constitution and READ it!! My, my, my, you are on the internet, the thing is all over the place, heard of a search engine?

2007-10-01 14:58:13 · answer #5 · answered by Blitzpup 5 · 0 6

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