Haven't they read the words of the High One? Don't they know we are living in the End Time and Ragnarök will soon be upon us. The Earth will be racked in the Fimbel winter and Loki will lead the hosts of Hel against the Holy Gods. Unless they join Odin and the Einherjar in the battle against the Frost Giants they cannot hope for rebirth on the Golden plain where peace and justice are forever. Is it just wilful ignorance or do they hate the good?
(Irony warning!!!!)
They can dish it out but can they take it?
2007-10-01 05:37:26 · 25 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Mythology & Folklore
Please note the irony warning if you don't know what irony means I respectfully suggest you use a dictionary.
2007-10-01 05:48:53 · update #1
The 13th century eddaic account of Odin likely contains some Christian elements. The scene where Odin hangs from a tree as a sacrifice to himself has been suggested to reflect the crucifixion of Jesus, down to the detail of having his side pierced with a spear; however, archeological evidence, such as the above mentioned Tollund Man, clearly establish that this form of sacrifice existed before the time of Christ and thus is most likely developed independently.
Other inconsistencies, such as that Odin was hung by a rope from a tree whereas Jesus was nailed to a cross (both wood, but in different contexts) further supports an independent origin of the myth. It is still likely that early Germanic Christians connected the two myths, moulding their image of Christ after Odin and vice versa, an effect that is also suggested by the Anglo-Saxon Dream of the Rood which portrays Christ as a Germanic warrior-king.
Odin's son Baldur, a god of light, shares some of Jesus' traits as a youthful "dying and rising" god, but unlike in the case of latter, his resurrection fails and he has to remain in the underworld. The Havamal account of Odin's sacrifice positions Odin in the otherwise unique Pauline Christian attributes of a "father god" who suffers and defeats death.
The similarity of Odin and Jesus was resurrected by Richard Wagner. Wagner's association of Odin with Jesus is treated in the Notes of the Seminar Given in 1928–1930 of Carl Jung. Recently, the German National Democratic Party issued T-Shirts labeled Odin statt Jesus ("Odin rather than Jesus") that were popular among the extreme right, but also among apolitical Neo-Pagans.
However both derived from the same story. I believe what you say but i believe what christians say aswell. Does that make any sence? :P
2007-10-01 06:06:08 · answer #1 · answered by ?? ?? 4 · 5⤊ 1⤋
Hail the Gods!
Hail Odin!
Actually it won't be only the battleslain. Loki will lead those in Hel and they have died of old age, sickness, etc. So it's everyone that goes to battle. I base this on a six hour debate I just had the other day with another Heathen LOL
2007-10-01 06:03:31 · answer #2 · answered by ~Heathen Princess~ 7 · 4⤊ 0⤋
It is a Christian tenant to be sure to trim the nails of their dead before burial, thus that ship that is long in the building will never be completed. Haha, take THAT Loki!
Besides, as it is stated in the Poetic Edda, after Ragnarok when the gods are sitting around Gimle, remembering the ol days, the god who oversees all will meet with them; this god is obviously the Christian (no matter that this was probably a Christian monk's intrusion on the original story, which is why any good translation will mark it as a dubious line).
As a side note, since when were humans supposed to be reborn (or anyone for that matter)? Some people survive, as do a few gods, but Nordic mythology recounts nothing of rebirth. Indeed, since when will humans take a part in ragnarok in general? Of humanity, only the warrior-slain will fight and Odin doesn't seem to care what the person's beliefs were, just if they were a good fighter. Thus, Christians who die in battle will still fight at Ragnarok (which means you best thank your lucky Aesir that the Crusades swelled Valhalla so much).
2007-10-01 05:50:39 · answer #3 · answered by Thought 6 · 3⤊ 3⤋
Its all fun and games until the christians stand before Odin.
2016-05-18 01:17:21 · answer #4 · answered by ? 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
well said and a valid question (note sarcasm).
it's almost as though they WILLFULLY disobey the rules of life as decreed by the viking gods - well a long time ago.
i mean, i could understand if the rules and stuff had been decreed, you know, last week - but this WAS WRITTEN IN A DUSTY OLD BOOK LONG AGO.
so it must be true.
i mean the text is really really small - so it must be accurate.
and anyone with the last name 'gay' can tell you, words never have their meanings EVER shift or alter in the context.
see you all in vallhalla - or will i?
be ye careful or you won't be tipping overflowing steins of mead with odin, thor and my favorite pagan god - nemesis - the god of retribution...
2007-10-01 06:10:12 · answer #5 · answered by nostradamus02012 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
I love you for making this post, but irony aside, religious tolerance is the goal here people!!
It doesn't matter who you do or don't worship but don't demean someone else's beliefs by implying that what they follow isn't "true".
To all who seek to convert: Many have died over this. Let go of your campain!!! Lets raise our children to be accepting and tolerant and we may actually see world peace some day. Its the only way.
2007-10-01 06:47:05 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Bully for you! By the First Amendment, Odin deserves equal time with any other gods. He is more real than Yahweh the deity invented by Moses and called God by English Christains, Dieu in France, Gott in Germany, Kami in Japan, etc.Odin is much more interesting than Yahweh, and I would much rather be in Valhalla than in the insipid heaven of Yahweh.
2007-10-01 07:32:32 · answer #7 · answered by miyuki & kyojin 7 · 3⤊ 1⤋
I have confidence in the Strength of Zeus and the warmth of Hestia's welcoming hearthfire....
The Golden Plain sounds like the Elysian Fields to me, so I'll be waiting with the food and drink for the heros.....
2007-10-01 06:22:38 · answer #8 · answered by Anne Hatzakis 6 · 4⤊ 2⤋
As a matter of fact, i DO worship the Gods of the Norse pantheon.
Hail the Aesir, hail the Vanir!
2007-10-01 09:14:56 · answer #9 · answered by Ymmo the Heathen 7 · 4⤊ 1⤋
I'm technically a christian, but don't really conform to 'organized' religion dogma. Do you really believe that you or any mere human is smart enough to define or decide who the 'TRUE GOD' really is? That's somewhat arrogant if you ask me!
All I know is that I know nothing. I am but a child in the playground of power that is far greater than myself. My enlightenment so far has been a very humbling experience. What about yours?
2007-10-01 05:46:56 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋