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My interest in China was piqued when I heard about how they violently took over Tibet (yes, ladies and gents, I'm a buddhist). China invaded Tibet the same as Iraq invaded Kuwait. We got involved in the Gulf War because of it(Kuwait) . But America refuses to get involved in liberating Tibet. Most of all, America refuses to recognize the Dalai Lama as a religious or political leader although he was the leader before Chinas harsh takeover.
Why would we support a country economically that has behaved similarly to Saddam Husseins' Iraq? Why do we still buy, trade & continue business with a country like this? Why does America turn a blind eye?
Please don't be angry or offended. I'm seriously just curious.
I try not to buy anything made in China but really, its hard. Have you looked at all the stuff in your house lately to see where it was made? Almost all of it was "Made in China". America makes communism look bad so why does its relationship w/China get swept under the rug?

2007-09-27 16:39:20 · 28 answers · asked by MelT 3 in Politics & Government Politics

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The Chinese are bankrolling the war! And where else could Walmart get it's junk! And other American companies! For many it is not about whether they are making money hiring Americans, because they were turning a profit. They just see MORE profit (greed) and could care less about America or Americans. GE pulled this same BS when they moved their Iron factory to Mexico for cheap labor!

We buy a lot of things from communist, and get a lot of things from dictators, some who we put into power!

The US, Bush selling fighter parts to Iran, and Reagan selling Iran Missiles shows you even the government has no interest in "democracy" If we did the CIA would not have overthrown an elected government (and get this. Using terrorism) to install the Pro US Oil Shaw of Iran, like we installed Hussein, and helped with Castro, and was the cause of North and South Vietnam being divided.

When it comes to "economic" interest, this country could care less what they are.

Did you see Kuwait keep their promise to install a democracy after they were liberated? Have we done anything about it? NO! Great Oil resource and staging area for US troops!

And China does a lot of our backdoor diplomacy with places like N. Korea! N Korea won't listen to us, but they damn sure will the Chinese!

2007-09-27 17:01:10 · answer #1 · answered by cantcu 7 · 2 6

China or any communist or socialist government is a house of cards. It is supported by keeping the population ignorant and fearful. The problem in China is the massive population. The socialist/communist system does not work and cannot provide even basic staples for the citizens.

So, China has been forced to embrace greater and greater degrees of free enterprise. These capitalist reforms are creating a vast middle class in China. This is good, very good for us.

It is one thing to intimidate a bunch of dirt farmers barely able to eke out enough food to stay alive and quite another to intimidate people who have power. This emerging middle class is expressing the same entrepreneurial spirit as America. They want SUV's, Home Theaters, leisure activities and private property rights. Once freed from expending all of their energy just on survival, they begin to look around at how things are run. They start to question things. They start to demand things.

They are already becoming a force for change in China. It has already been proven that the genie of liberty and self determination, once let out of the bottle is impossible to put back in. The Chinese Government is desperately trying to control that genie. It seriously underestimates the power of self-determination and liberty.

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2007-09-27 16:54:32 · answer #2 · answered by Jacob W 7 · 2 2

It is all business, ya know. If 1% of 1.2 billions chinese drink 1 coke /day, Coca-Cola would make 50-100 millions dollars a day . Since the first day of human existence, all wars have always been for property's acquisitions and always covered under many beautiful wording and meaningful ideology to get people go along with them. You have to paint your enemy a very bad guy otherwise you have no reason to attack him or them. But if you could take advantage of the enemy ( making $ in case of China), why bother shooting yourself in the feet.

2007-09-27 17:10:48 · answer #3 · answered by tdeer3 2 · 1 0

You are awfully naive. Their money is as green as their teeth. That's all that matters.

Oh, and Tibet doesn't have oil. So why would we try to liberate Tibet?

I do refuse to even speak to the Lenovo reps who call my office. It's one thing to buy a Dell that's made in china (yeah the yellows get some money out of it), but it's entirely another to pay directly to the Chinese government via Lenovo.

So we each take a stand where we can, but the economics trump the ideologies.

2007-09-27 16:44:42 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 5 4

How potent are political ideologies and tags in the 21st century? Chinese "communism" is far removed from Stalinesque or Kim Jung-il-type communism. As the global economy (globalization) becomes much more infused and significant to the health of national economies, refusing to engage with China would be a serious mistake. China openly welcomes FDI from foreign firms (in fact, it has prospered because of it) and has a preferential tax policy program that is forgiving to the interests of foreign business. Not only does China offer opportunities for "cheap labor" but, with its profound change in its attitude toward economic development, has unleashed a large market with the potential for incredible consumption of goods and services from around the world. America would be foolish not to engage in such an environment. All of Asia and Europe have openly engaged in capital/financial management services, manufacturing, etc... As far as regulatory systems go, China could certainly be described as a nation that has a long way to go but there are tremendous bodies of organizations from foreign countries (like EICC) that have taken an active interest in making sure that regulatory development occurs. (It translates into lost revenue if overlooked)

2007-09-27 16:56:05 · answer #5 · answered by FANatic 5 · 2 3

I am a Chinese myself and lets put it this way:

Before we liberate Tibet the place is rule by what can only be describe as a fundamentalist buddhism theocracy. 'His holiness' Dalai Laman ruled his people in a cool looking palace when the people work as slaves and suffer under his brutal serfdom.

Now China may had done lots of bad things in Tibet. But we also gave them things like power, runing water, roads, airport, railways and internet. Which is 1000 times better then anything what 'His holiness' did.

In 2001, the Dalai Lama said this himself:
'Tibet, materially, is very, very backward. Spiritually it is quite rich. But spirituality can’t fill our stomachs.'

Here is a message that should be heeded by the well-fed Buddhist proselytes in the West who wax nostalgic for Old Tibet.

The myth of how Tibet was a paradise with social order that actually was a retrograde theocracy of serfdom and poverty, where a favored few lived high and mighty off the blood, sweat, and tears of the many. It was a long way from Shangri-La.

2007-09-27 17:49:42 · answer #6 · answered by chankljp 6 · 6 6

It's all Benjamins. The US can partner with Chinese businesses to produce cheap, low quality items for mass consumption. The Chinese are ready, willing and able to partner with Big Business. The Gulf War was based on oil, Saddam didn't want to play with Daddy Bush, and since the ball was his (the oil) he was going to take it and go home. The Bushes, being in bed with the Saudi's went in to 'protect their interests' or to guarantee Bush's stock in the oil companies remained fluidly upward.

If you want to avoid buying things made in China, please stay away from Walmart. I just read a report that stated that Walmart imports more stock from China than Germany and Great Britain(?) - I know it was two major European countries and one was Germany for sure - combined.

2007-09-27 16:57:35 · answer #7 · answered by momatad 4 · 1 4

I have said this all along, My belief is that the Chinese work for pennies on our dollar, Because there is no human rights there and that's all they can do. I believe china can go to hell and this administration just wants to get richer and screw the Americans in the process.

2007-09-27 16:45:08 · answer #8 · answered by Union_Dooz 6 · 2 2

Nixon started it!
Then Bill Clinton gave them everything they needed to create ICBMs and anti-ship weapons to defeat us during their future attacks against Taiwan.
China is the World's MOST dangerous IMPERIALISTIC Nation.
They excuse their takeover of Tibet by saying it was once part of China. What China once owned is still theirs!
I must add: China once controlled Eastern Africa, all of India, and most of the Middle East!
Does the SAME principle apply to those areas also?
BOTH major American Parties are Pro China.
We finance China by buying their products, just like we do our sworn enemies in the Middle East.
I'll ask the same question. WHY?

2007-09-27 16:52:27 · answer #9 · answered by Philip H 7 · 1 6

Because we are a capitalistic economy. It is cheaper to manufacture goods in China than in the U.S. The first rule of economics is that people will do what is best for them. I do agree with you, however, that it is quite hypocitical to talk about human rights and justice and then turn a blind eye. But thereis nothing new about politicians being hypocrites and fakes.

2007-09-27 16:47:47 · answer #10 · answered by morstar150 3 · 3 4

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