How do you prove it?

Question

This is a serious question although I realize it could inspire a bit of clever responses.

If the military draft was reinstated in the U.S. how would men between the ages of 18-26 who claimed they were homosexual be required to "prove" it.

A written note from their mom?

Is it safe to assume that the DoD would be forced to abolish the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy and finally allow gay men and women to serve openly in the U.S. Armed Forces ?

Answer 1

When I was active duty a buddy of mine came out specifically to get released from active duty - he hated his job - in that case several of his friends testified in court the the fact he was gay.

Here is the funny part - I had given him the nickname 7-11 (because he was open all night) and they made me explain exactly what that meant! My sexuality came to light in an obvious way and not one word was said about it because I did not want to get out.

Answer 2

TeeJay,

I don't believe that the DoD will do anything about the DADT unless ordered by the Prez.

You and I know that LGB's make damn good soldiers. The Pentagon knows the same. Until Joe Citizen gets it out of his collective head that we are a bunch of poofs waiting to go down on the first naked trooper we see in the shower, the DoD is not going to have the courage to tell the public, "Please, don't tell us who to make into a soldier and who not."

I also believe that reinstating the draft is the worst idea to come down the pike in years. The draft era military sucked big time compared to today's professionals. As long as we have a professional military made up of volunteers, we have a chance to survive in a cruel world.

I believe that reinstating the draft is an attempt by certain liberal politicians to weaken the military and use it for political purposes. When they can say "These poor boys were forced to serve. It ain't right.", they will have a chance to gut its purpose.

Answer 3

I asked the same thing. It seems that back in the day (Vietnam), there was a stigma attatched with being openly gay. Pretty much, all you had to do was tell the recruiter you were gay, and you were let out of duty.

This made me laugh, in a sad way. Thousands of soldiers could have gotten out of duty...but they were too scared to tell the Army that they were gay. They would have rather taken a chance on dying than tell a little fib to get out of service. Unbelievable!

So...yes. I think, the next time a draft comes around, they will have to relax thier policy. America is more accepting of gay men now, and a lot of guys would lie, just to get out of service.

Answer 4

So many countries don't fear gay service personnel, why does this one?

In ancient history there was a battalion of 300 unbeaten men, 150 pairs, partners, lovers all...yup, gay. (no...not last summer's movie...and that really wasn't much about history anyway)
The theory was that a man would rather die for his lover than let his lover die...and they were right. They were among histories best and most successful fighting forces ever...ok, until they actually did lose, but they all fought to the death. There is a beautiful statue near Thessaly I think where the battle ended and all but about 40 died.

We are not just for hair and fashion. We invented the B itch slap!

:-)

Answer 5

Ivy, there are a lot of Gays and Lesbians in the military, just under wraps about the sexual orientation. I am a retired US Army Cavalry Scout and M1A1 Abrams Tank Commander. I resent the fact that I had to stay in the closet but I wasn't there for sex.
For the good of the Army and the good of the country, we don't need draftees.
We should be permitted to serve in the military without prejudice to our sexual orientation though. That would end any malingerers who want to get out based on sexual orientation.

Answer 6

that's a good question. i don't know that that would work nowadays. there are a lot of gay men and women who would serve their country if they were drafted, and there are a lot of straight men and women who might use the "i'm gay" excuse. i don't think they asked people to "prove it" back in the day, i think they just took them at their word. they must realize by now, if a lot of people did that, they might be just trying to get out of service.

Answer 7

i highly doubt anyone would have to prove anything,i don't think the don't ask don't tell would be void if there was a draft,homosexuality will always be a scapegoat to avoid real issues,it will always be a favorite target of hate and bigotry,on all levels and that's just sad.

Answer 8

No, that would be an erroneous assumption. Homosexuals were not allowed in the military when we have had the draft before. It's simple, really - the military would do a background check to look for evidence of the claim.

Answer 9

I don't know.......kneel down, bend over and take one for the team? Anybody could do that.

I like the note from Mommy idea, but I don't have parents. I'm an orphan. Whats an orphan supposed to do?

Answer 10

I'm unsure how they would they wwould ask you to "prove it". Maybe by calling around your friends? Of course, that would just give them too much work. I didn't know that you couldn't be gay and in the army. That's just wrong for them to do that.