I take back what I said - serious question - why do you antichoice people think women give up their bodies?

Question

Serious question, why do you antichoice people think that a women gives up the rights to her own body when she becomes pregnant.

I asked my previous question as a sort of tounge in check but the second answer really struck a nerve with me, that theres an actual reason why I'm prochoice, its a womens body.

Answer 1

Ok, I am pro-life, but do think that in some cases abortion should be legal (rape, incest, risk to the life of the mother...).

I have been pregnant twice, both times my husband and I were trying to conceive.

The first time, we miscarried at 7 weeks, which was truly devastating and we really felt that we lost a BABY, not just a bunch of cells. We mourned the loss of our child and it was very, very difficult.

The second time, I had gestational diabetes and needed to be very careful what I ate, not for my health as much as for our daughter's health. What I did to my own body had an impact on her, so for those 9 months, my body was not exclusively my own - it was hers too. And she was a totally helpless passenger - she could have been harmed by my actions. Of course, I did exactly what the doctor said, and we both came through it great.

But for that time, my body was not only my own. I hope that made sense, and I certainly respect other people's right to disagree with my opinions.

Answer 2

If the woman was diagnosed with AIDS and continued to have unprotected sex with others, would you be prochoice with how she uses her body? Did you feel the lawyer that supposedly had the virulent form of TB had a RIGHT to travel all over the place when he knew he was contagious and putting others at risk? These are two example, but there are many others. The point is NO ONE has a RIGHT to do whatever they want with their bodies when it has the potential to impact the health or lives of others. Abortion affects the LIFE of the baby within.

I'm not a foaming-at-the-mouth pro-lifer, but I definitely believe that the blanket statement that a woman can do whatever she wants with that pregnancy at any time is simply wrong. Whether life starts at conception, I don't know. I've always hated abortions, but I didn't get excited when it was confined to the first trimester back in the "good old days." But now, there is no line. There must be a point, when that baby has a RIGHT to be brought to term.

Answer 3

I'm pro-choice... but the second the woman gives life, it is no longer her choice. I hate to be so gruff, but you asked a pointed question, so...

Let's say it should be a womans choice to kill a"fetus", or a baby. Let's say that the laws decide that is ok. Woman around the US rejoice, sex with no consequences!!!

But..

Why can't a womans choice be retro-active? What is the difference between killing a 3 month old baby and a teenager? Why are there women in jail for killing 5 year olds, 10 year olds, and 25 year olds... wasn't that their choice? What if a woman chooses to slam her car through a crowded mall, because she made a choice to kill her husband. Can she also choose to pull a gun on her boss?

Where does it end? What is the difference between these choices? The woman uses her body to make the choice, and it's her body, so what's the difference?

Murder is murder, no matter what you choose to call it.

Answer 4

I think that the biology of the situation dictates the rational answer. The womans body sacrifices its nutrition for the baby. To me its very simple when do you say someone is dead. What is the definition of dead? I think the neurological criteria of brain death is the best. So no brain the fetus is not alive. When brain activity occurs then you are beginning to meet criteria for life. If you cannot survive without life support then you are not really alive either. If the baby cannot survive outside the womb then its not alive then either. So up to 20 weeks (22 wks in that range) its not alive.

Answer 5

The whole premise that it's the woman's body and she should make the choice is so bogus. Because we don't apply that logic to anyone else in any other forum. For example, why shouldn't a drug addict be given the same rights? it's his body.
Why shouldn't someone who wants to commit suicide be allowed to? It's his body.
Pro-choice is just a nice clean way of saying you believe in murdering an unborn human.
With few exceptions, (rape, incest) abortion is used as a very convenient birth control method. The truth that is never told about it is that it causes a lot of emotional harm to the woman who aborts. But, let the liberal lie live on, as it appears through the stats that the vast majority of women who chose to abort are in the lower echelon, less educated -- most.
Vive la liberal agenda

Answer 6

Most of them do not believe the woman loses her rights but that the fetus's rights super-cede hers.

While I do not think abortion is way to go unless the woman is going to die, I also accept that I personally have no right to make this choice FOR the woman..it is HER choice..not mine, or yours, or the governments.

I think of it like this:
If I took you and hooked you up via machinery to another person and said you must now support their life for 9 months and if you disconnect then he/she will die. If I did that then what RIGHT do I, or anyone else, have to FORCE you to stay connected and support another life?
As an independent party in this situation I would think you an @sshole for not staying connected for the 9 months but then again I would understand that your right to liberty+freedom says you cannot be forced to sacrifice yourself for the benefit of another.
I can think you a scumbag for not going thru the 9 months, but can I really say that the government has the right to force you to stay connected, the family of the other person has the right to force you, I have the right to force you against your will.

Or put it like this....if we say we can assume control of someone's body..in any way..then what is to stop people from saying in the name "life" that society can grab you off street and take your surplus organs for those who need them, or that you can be jailed if you refuse to give a kidney to someone who needs it.


I see and agree with the pro-life's idea that if you allow this then what is to stop us from killing the elderly as we slide down the slope, but I also don't want to slide down the other slope where my body is nothing more than a collection of parts society can claim as it sees fit

So this is not a simple issue..and I wonder if it would be such a large argument if men got pregnant. I mean I see a lot of "Well then don't hasve sex, she should not have had sex, she chose to have sex" showing that Just like most think..this about people wanting to make others ashamed of sex, make it dirty, so they can control it, knowing of they can control sex, they control the whole race.

Answer 7

Uh huh. A woman's body so her choice huh? What if the father wants the child? He has no say? Every baby would be taken in by someone desperate for a child. So a woman ends a life just to get out of a few months of inconvenience? All bills would be paid if they had the child. Hell, they could probably even profit from it.. What about the would be grand parents?

Answer 8

Yes it is a woman's body. She is biologically design to care and raise a child while inside the womb. But that life is no longer hers. It is a life all it's own.

Again, taking another life is a crime called murder here in America. Does it matter where that life is?

Edit: For the answerer who says it's always the male's fault about getting a female pregnant. I can tell you just as many times where the male uses protection, only to be outdone by a vindictive female looking for a 18 year handout called child support.

Answer 9

A woman does not have any choice in carrying a child when she becomes pregnant. That's not any living person's fault, it's God's / the designer / the creator / random chance or the Spaghetti Monster's fault that women get pregnant and bear children. It's just life and random chance. If you are a woman, you can choose to not get pregnant by not having sex, or by using protection. I fail to see how carrying a child is a "loss of rights", what rights are you losing? Why do some people think that anything they don't like is a loss of rights? What makes you think it's your right to have everything in the world to be pleasing to you, even if you have to kill your own unborn children to attain that pleasing state?

Answer 10

And if the fetus is a woman then isn't it her body? Aren't you going to give her the same right? I am sure she would choose life.

I bet Worker Bee has never seen a sonogram or had a fetus kick him.

Trees are alive and they don't have a brain.