Isn't it amazing...............?

Question

how so called Antis can put forward media specualtion yet try to fob it of as a fact (ie the McCanns spent the Maddy fund on paying their mortgage)???????

Yet if someone who appears to be a supporter of the McCanns posts a question related to a report in the media, they are abused with the usual ''do you believe everything in the papers..........etc etc ) by most of the people that answer the question
Oh and by the way before anyone starts, when i say McCann supporter I DO NOT mean supporter of child abuse!!!
so you can tick that off your insult list!

All im saying is its one rule for one group of people and another rule for the other group!!

LMAO @ steph j
oh yeah I forgot about that one!!!!

Julia H
If your tired go to bed
don't fall asleep on the Z key!!!!

sally
can you please point out at what point in my question did I say 'innocent till proven guilty?
and who are you refering to when you say ''you lot''

oh and by the way, thanks for laying off the child abuse supporter rant!!!
Lexy is right, you have no argument without pulling out the abuse card
Thanks for answering to question in the only way you know how!!!!!!!!!

Malcom x
You made a very good point............untill you mentioned the wonder that is Dave s
Im amazed that someone of your clear intelligence cannot answer a simple question without mentioning his name?

Answer 1

And isnt it amazing how the so called Pros can support these people knowing they left the child alone? Unbelieveable!

Nuff said.

Have a nice day.

Answer 2

I know what you mean.It's so hard trying to get OUR points across when people always hit back with the neglect issue etc.If the sun says it happened it's final but,if the judge says there is not enough evidence and there is no need for further questioning,it goes straight back to 'well it wouldnt have happened if they had'nt have left her'.
All we are trying to say is,Yes they left her but, that doesnt make them murderers.And should we not show our support to 2 parents who are going through every parents worst nightmare.At the end of the day,there is a little innocent girl missing and that should be our focus.Not what the McCanns have or have not done.That is what gets me so frustrated.Some people seem more worried about spreading hatred for the parents that they have forgot what it is all about.......A LITTLE GIRL CALLED MADELEINE!!

Answer 3

Sorry but I posted the same question a day or so ago about pro people doing this very same thing.
In any event I tend not to rely upon the tabloid newspapers as a source of information which I have found to be the case for supporters of the Mccann

Another marked difference between the so called hypocrisy which you point to is the fact that ANY criticism of the Mccanns in the newspapers is perceived as speculation:
The only fact that supporters will accept as FACT is the McCanns having being named as suspects. EVERYTHING else for supporters is speculation even things which are manifestly obvious like the McCanns having left their children alone! Yesterday a lot of the supporters accepted as FACT that the photo of that girl in Morocco had to be Madeleine as there "couldn't possibly be white, blond haired children" in an Arabic country.

One final point. Most of what the antis have speculated about has occurred. Dave S in particular has been incredibly accurate when it has come to predicting the course of events, and this has been without the benefit of relying upon papers as sources as he made these predictions from the onset.

Antis make predictions which usually come to pass and are written about in the papers which they then discuss. Supporters simply try to curtail all conversation unless it has something positive to say about the McCanns.

Answer 4

Its a current events section and its natural that people will want to discuss new information about the case, but there is so much speculation on in here which is passed off as fact from both sides of the debate.

Ulitmately people can only given their opinion, but some members wouldnt entertain other points of view and spout forth their views as fact and are abusive,insulting and offensive.

Answer 5

i can see ur point sweety. i just think no one should be speculating. i got so emotionally involved in the mccann case and became a serious "anti" but since then i have opened my eyes and realised that none of us know what happened. None of us should gbe speculating. i now do my best to ignore what i read in the papers. until i see real fact such as maddy live and well or (god forbid) confirmation that a body has been found, i am not going to get involved and place a biased view on the situation. it is none of our business. Let the mccanns do what they need to do to find their daughter and we can all get on with our own lives.

Answer 6

Lisa, I've had violations and hate mail because I'm one of the not a clue brigade. I don't know what occured, hopefully one day the perpetrator will be brought to book. Some people are so busy slagging each other off they have lost sight of the real issue, there is a 4 year old girl missing.

Answer 7

The 'pros' can be just as bad, if not worse at this.

I'll tick 'neglect supporter' off my list, if you lot stop saying 'innocent before proven guilty' as if that makes freedom of speech null and void.

EDIT - Don't be so ridiculous. I did not say you said the' innocent until proven guilty' line, I said that pro-McCanns often do. What makes you think it's ok for you to generalise about a whole group of people, but not me?

I did not say you supported child neglect, and that is not my 'only argument', as I am not trying to argue, just state my opinion. I could enlarge on that, but frankly I'll wait for a more interesting and logical question. Questions like yours are the ones that are obviously trying hard to start an argument. Grow up.

Answer 8

Hi Lisa... well said!

I think the antis have been very full on with the media poo, since their bible (the sun) was reduced to 20p!!!!

If you took away the words rumoured, claimed, suggested,speculated..they would not be able to post on here!

Oh and I love your last paragraph....

"Oh and by the way before anyone starts, when i say McCann supporter I DO NOT mean supporter of child abuse!!!
so you can tick that off your insult list!"

If you take that away from them they will not have anything to say...it is their only argument, last week I read one which asked the usual rubbish, "I want a straight answers from the pros's, as you obviously condone child neglect" what immature rubbish they spout.

Answer 9

Hi Lisa.I am a so called anti:I don't take notice of newspaper reports,and personally don't give a damn about the fund etc.
I have said on numerous occasions that i do not believe the McCanns murdered Madeleine,but i will always stand by my opinion of neglect.I do not think,if the parents were present that night,that Madeleine would have gone missing.
My first though is for that little girl and always will be until the day she is found.

Steph:PMSL xxxx

Answer 10

I believe this is the area in which the non hate campaigners may appear to be (on the surface only), at a distinct disadvantage. It's a catch 22 situation, because we believe innocent until proven guilty, we also have the other personality traits that come with decency, consequently whilst more than intellectually capable of going one step further in a disagreement and dismissing the haters points, we are bound by said decency and tend not to say things which we cannot verify and support with quantifiable evidence. The haters have no such constraints and therefore can say anything, no matter how offensive, untrue, lacking in fact or logic. The haters are without doubt angry, cruel, critical and negative, they are guilty of small mindedness, i.e. they are more than prepared (I believe they actually relish) the oppurtunity to allow minor faults to assume major importance. they lack temperance and self constraint. In a nutshell a person who objects to the hate campaign is likely to be of sanguine temperament, A person who prefers to hate, is more choleric (cynical, generaly hostile and guilty of vilification) . We lead happier lives, which has got to be better for our families and the people close to us.