Democrats confuse me. One day its just a fetus now its a child Or is it just an excuse to raise taxes?

Question

Under the SCHIP deal they're trying to pass that is just for children(even the ones that don't need it because the parents have enough money or are covered by the parents' insurance) they also want to cover women with children... well children still in their stomach which the last time I checked didn't count as a child to the pro-choice left... Its just a parasitic fetus to them.


So one of the following has happened:

1) Harry Potter waved his magic wand and they all believe a fertilized egg is a child and abortion will be abolished

2) They want it for pregnant women who want an abortion for free(well not really-working people pay for it)

3) Because government dependent people no longer get extra money on welfare for extra children the Dems think this will make up for their 'give free stuff and get votes' and they will start popping out more kids again because they know their health is paid for by the remaining responsible citizens, thus continuing their "neighbor's keeper" policy.

By the way, if you do the math for a $35 billion increase in taxes to people who actually pay taxes(people of age to work) in the US it's an extra $200 every year out of the working(not under the table) person's paycheck. Why to the democrats feel the need to take more of my money and give to random people every time they're in office?!

At least with the republicans I know its going to the military for my protection.

So many have asked "Why is it that republicans are only concerned about someone before they're born?"

I have a better question, Why are there so many slutty women out there having sex without protection and birth control?

Why is it my job to pay for other people's mistakes? Not just with having kids but with people who didn't graduate so they have crappy jobs so they're on welfare.

And as for Republicans adopting American children... try looking in the mirror at your democrat Hollywood types that adopt kids from everywhere but America. And Dems are in office, tell your buddies to not make adopting children in the US so hard it takes 5-10 years. My sister in-law is still on a waiting list 8 years later waiting for a child.

Answer 1

It's really quite simple.

They want everyone free to do whatever they want to, except for two things.

1. They don't want anyone free to keep their own money since they need it to pay for everyone else to do what they want to do.

2. No one gets to say "nappy headed ho" unless they set it to music.

Answer 2

At least with republicans you got one of the biggest social welfare programs ever it's called Medicare part D, See you're already full of manure but let's proceed. Schip will not cover those that don't need it Sen. Grassly(R) IA ( you did see that big R didn't you?) one of the sponsors has called out Bush for that lie and we're pro choice not pro abortion there is a difference that you seem to feeble to grasp sorry but making sure kids have a healthy start SHOULD be EVERY Americans desire, sorry life kicked you so hard you became a bitter little (expletive deleted)

Answer 3

The SCHIP bill was another way for democrats to slide in to Socialized Health Care , it was originally to provide coverage for those with incomes up to $80,000.00 , then they lowered it to 60 grand , ..(this was for those who make decent money , but spend too much on the house , the new cars , the boats , and everything else , but their child's health care )....

Just as the dream bill is a back door bill to grant citizenship to any ,and all illegals who were on US soil at the age of 16 , no matter how old they are now , as long as they were here at age 16 ..plus subsidized college tuition for the illegals granted a free pass to citizenship ........

Typical Democrats , say one thing , mean something else , and do something totally different that what I say or mean ...If I did that I could stay out of trouble at home ....ha ha ha ..

I do not down them for helping expecting mothers take proper care of the unborn child , but I do down the fact there is nothing to make it mandatory that if they are going to get knocked up , be must able to afford health care , I have three , and none of them had a govt. handout ...Of course with my first born I was a single dad alone with a son , and would not qualify for Women , Infant and Child ( WIC) they told me it was for women , and children .... ha ha ha .....And we had a Democrat in Office ( BJ Bill ) talking about equal and fair treatment of Americans ...what a joke..... ha ha ha ha ha ........

I decided I was not going to use Govt. hand outs at all , and I worked my @ss off , and did it ..anyone can do it if they wanted too , and after seeing govt. health care , govt. houses , and govt. everything else , who in their right minds would want that kind of care anyway ......

The extra 3 or 5 million Bush asked for was to help 12 states who could not sustain the program , all others had a surplus built up for this care...that was all he asked for was enough to keep a few states going with the SCHIP plan. 12 out of 50 , I wonder how many of those 12 States are Controlled by Democrats .....

Answer 4

Ummm...no one is stating it isn't a fetus. That is why people believe it is a double murder when you kill a pregnant mother. The majority of Democrats believe it is a fetus, but they also believe it is not OUR decision to force someone to have a child.

Now let's talk about Republican thinking: You want to force someone to have a child. Fine. If that is the case, then why aren't Conservatives trying to adopt children that aren't wanted? Why not help those who are being forced to have children? I understand that you don't want to have government pay for adults, but what about the children? Don't you and other Conservatives feel that children should be taken care of since they cannot take care of themselves? All I see it Conservatives stating you must have the child, but will state, "I'm not taking care of it". Now it goes out into the world an angry adult. He or she kills someone. Now you want him or her executed, and you blame the parent who could have gotten rid of the child in the first place because she felt she didn't want them at the time.

Explain this thought process...

Answer 5

The proposal does not increase taxes. It just make sure everyone has health insurance. The insurance industry will be paid by every citizen of the United States health not a cause for denial. The must stop using the 50 billion they currently spend on statistical data used to deny people health care. That is where the money will come from.

Not even from Bush's war to pay for his oil investments.
I sure wish he had invested in corn ethanol the US would be so rich employed and affording health care no problem. I wish he would have invested in the US auto industry.

Answer 6

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Answer 7

I don't know what exactly the issue is . . . with the S-Chip programs and allowing pregnant women to participate . . . aside from it being extremely important to have pre-natal care. For abortions, however, I would think that they wouldn't be allowed to participate (after all, the program is for the benefit of the child, and an abortion doesn't benefit the unborn child -- it would border on the line of doctor assisted suicide . . . without the child's consent).

The democrats aren't really the ones (per se) who determined that an unborn child was a fetus. That decision was left to the U.S. Supreme Court in the case of Roe v. Wade which legalized abortion within certain constraints.

You may note, however, that there was, within the last year or two, a case where a pregnant woman who abused an illegal drug (heroin, I believe) was convicted of murder for the death of her unborn child (the termination of her pregnancy) which was a proximate result of the drug abuse.

You may also find in your state criminal code (I know it's in mine) that murder and manslaughter have sections which define the termination of another's pregnancy without their expressed consent as murder or manslaughter -- based upon the circumstances).

So . . . then, it's a fetus -- when we WANT to kill it . . . but, when we don't want to kill it . . . it's a baby -- unless we want to kill it, but don't have health insurance . . . in which case we may qualify to use the CHIP program . . . for a doctor assisted suicide without consent.

How bizarre.

Answer 8

If an embryo isn't mis-carried or aborted, it grows to the point of being ready to be born as a baby.

(If this is too complicated for you, maybe your mommy can explain it to you.)

Pre-natal care is one of the -- possibly THE -- most cost-effective health care, as well as having a huge impact on the health and well-being, and general quality of life of the resulting baby (and it's mother).

I gather from what they say on a variety of issues that most people who oppose abortion don't care at all about any human once they have been born. They care only for pre-humans and for people who have been dead for 15 years. Not the well-being or continued existence of any actually living, fully human being.

I consider that to be utterly contemptible.

Answer 9

Absolutely no cause for confusion, you are the one making the question about fetus vs child not me.

My issue with abortion is whose decision - and in my universe a bunch of legislators are incapable of making my moral decisions for me.

But if the woman searches her heart and decides that it is best to bear the child, by all means we should help with her health care.

I like that saying about liberals - better to have a bleeding heart than to have no heart at all.

To the questioner - sorry you are so angry and bitter, hope your life gets better.

Answer 10

if a woman has the right to say she does or doesnt want to have a child. and that's a good thing.
if i woman says she would like to keep a child then she, has the right to, and should be helped. and that's also a good thing.
the systems in place to deal with these issues are a wreak. but thats mostly because of religious nuts who want to tell other people how they should or shouldnt be living.
it's also because of greedy people in the government who will say what they need to get the votes in their district.

Answer 11

So you are ok with forcing women to give birth so long as you don't have to pay for it? When you are ready to take in and pay for all the unwanted children you social moralizing would create, you'll have a leg to stand on but until then give it up.