who do nothing but put down feminists when feminists are about making the world a better place for all of us?
who whine about men's rights but refuse to accept the fact that rights come with responsibilities?
who Just Don't Get It that women are individuals and we won't all be a single way that they want?
2007-09-26
06:22:20
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stale white male I agree what's more cowardly than whining about unfairness, instead of just going out in the world and doing your best?
Or coming here and annon trolling women?
2007-09-26
06:40:56 ·
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♥MafiaGirl♥ I don't think we will agree on many things but I respect your thinking. I mean that.
2007-09-26
07:00:52 ·
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ren I'm sory I don't see trolling as expressing an opinion in this forum and I do see some things some people say as cowardly.
2007-09-26
07:10:46 ·
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ren you got my thumb up but I disagree. Trolls or anti feminists are not risking anything by posting in here and trolls don't force me to think about what I believe. Intelligent people with good arguments or facts or questions that give me something to think about make me think about what i believe.
2007-09-26
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They may be annoying however they do daily reinforce the need in our society for equality and the stigma and stereotypes that still abound not only about women but about feminism. Every time we women prove them wrong it educates another person about the fallacy of their weak arguments.
The ones that try and obtain power by attacking other members are actually mentally ill but I still don't accept that as an excuse to harass, stalk and threaten others.
2007-09-26 07:30:43
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answered by Deirdre O 7
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The world is in a steady process of change, what is Gospel to day can be changed tomorrow. I came from a world that man was the sole bread winner in the family. Now it is impossible to have a household on one income. Both are employed and the household chores that were once a woman's job, should now be a shared task. Woman are doing the jobs once only reserved for men. I have nothing against a person that goes out and initiates change in their quest for equality. I believe every one has a right to their own opinion, even anti-feminist but when they express those opinions to dispute the arguments of the feminist, without an intelligent point of view, I would consider them cowards.
Having said that feminist need to change their views on some gender pacific laws, There has to be equality in our court system. concerning Divorce and child custody That is a battle males must champion, but feminist must understand that equality means change for all.
2007-09-26 12:47:52
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answered by Anonymous
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No I can't say that I'm disgusted by anti feminist people that consist of both male and female people that are both brave and cowards and other negative and positive things. Why should I be disgusted? I would need an example of what they do that is cowardly and disgusting.
And I could even say I'm a feminist since I would hire or work with a female doing construction work.
2007-09-26 12:04:58
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answered by Anonymous
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You certainly don't mince your words do you; good cause neither do I. Put it this way I could be out there having that huge job that you all dream about, go out there and vote and I would still not be a feminist. Of course we are individuals and it must always be like that. Now you need an answer, which is if one ever got my nerves the answer is yes. After all just like you being a feminist (for the sake of our discussion) I as an anti-feminists am only human.
2007-09-26 23:26:13
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answered by Anonymous
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The ones I find equally amusing are the people that post questions like. Of the couple of heterosexual feminsts who post here...... How many people think feminism is a society killer? or Why are feminists so angry??
Oh these are HILARIOUS. I laugh and laugh at the sense of DESPERATION these question reek of. Can't the misogynists at least come up with something interesting and original?
2007-09-29 15:21:47
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answered by The Ms. 4
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No, disgust is rarely my reaction. Certainly a lot of sympathy from me, but only to a point. Perpetual wallowing and being incendiary for it's own sake are not fruitful.
From your question, I would guess you'd have a hard time seeing things from their point of view at all. But, they can see it from your point of view, they can just tell it's lopsided. Some of the anti-feminists are misled, not in their reasoning, but in what they're concentrating on. I think they don't have enough faith that they can find a good woman.
2007-09-26 06:48:20
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answered by Anonymous
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My main concern is the biased men face in court as well as the special treatment women recieve. You don't like the glass ceiling do you? You don't like the wage gap do you? You don't like the exploitation of women do you?
Well I refuse to sit back and take discrimination in family law, yet feminist organizations do not support shared parenting and lobby against it every time an inititive is proposed by a state to make it law.
You say: "who whine about men's rights but refuse to accept the fact that rights come with responsibilities?" What does that mean? If you are assuming that men don't take responsibilities for their children you are worng. Men are pushed out of their kids lives by some women. Feminist groups have done nothing for equal treatment in this aspect. They only fight for women's interest and claim to be champions of equality.
I am all for equal treatment for women. Same pay, non-sexist treatment, and everything that comes with equality. I will not sacrifice my own rights to my children in the process. Shared parenting must be law.
2007-09-26 06:57:47
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answered by Anonymous
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I have said this before:
I think many anti-feminists only claim to be one because they believe feminism has brought about a culture that is favored toward women, and is quite misandric. I disagree with that, but as I have said before, they do have some valid points. Usually these people do not believe that someone's life choices, personality, and actions should be and are dictated by their gender, and they generally don't believe one gender is inferior to the other. There are some anti-feminists who do believe such things, but they also tend to believe the earth is only 6,000 years old, so their opinion doesn't matter anyway.
2007-09-26 06:50:41
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answered by Anonymous
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How are anti-feminists cowards? Why is it not the other way around? Hmm?
''Who whine about men's rights but refuse to accept the fact that rights come with responsibilities?''
Yet, men have all the responsibilities and women all the rights in pregnancy.
Woman wants to abort, and the man wants it, he suffers what women call ''emotional damage''.
If she wants it but he doesn't, then child support for 18 years.
Women have the RIGHT to choose, but men have the responsibility to support the child or ''take it like a man'' when their kid is killed.
Men always had more responsibility (and rights than women).
They had the responsibility to protect their woman, (and other people's since men let the woman escape first) die for her, provide for her and their kid(s) if it meant working in a coal mine 60 hours a week.
So how did men not have any responsibility? Men always had more rights & responsibilities.
So is feminist making a better place for us all?
With WOMEN'S ONLY ACTS such as VAWA?
With making it so easy for a woman to accuse a man of ANYTHING, such as rape, ruining his reputation and not be punished?
Etc, etc.
Since you say feminism want to make the world a better place for us all, why don't you answer this question: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AqKo0_iG3buNRuB07sTjIS7sy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20070925175133AA6TDsv
2007-09-26 08:52:22
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answered by Anonymous
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Thoughtful anti-feminists take issue precisely with whether or not feminism is truly "about making the world a better place for all of us", or instead making the claim in order to hide its attempts to just get more power and money for women, and to make it easier to convince themselves that the pursuit of selfish ends are altruistic.
___Hypocrisy and self-delusion have infected every movement in human history. More to the point, what is so easily called hyprocrisy from the observation of external behavior is more likely the sincere expression of self-deluded beliefs about what is selfish and altruistic.
___The issue isn't about trying to fight for or oppose equality, but about trying to establish fair terms for measuring equality that take into account the biases of both sexes, and to transcend the history of phallocentric and uterocentric self-delusions.
___Give some thought to the ethical implications of dismissing your opponents as cowards, and refusing to consider their feelings and arguments on the issue as significant. Give some consideration to the walking-a-mile-in-their-moccasins thing.
___It should be evident that the disagreements here are deep and fundamental, since there seem to be so many exchanges of ideas that don't talk to people, but past them. Under these conditions, it's very tempting to assume that one's opponents are acting in bad faith.
___Apply these dynamics to a situation removed from gender-issues, and see if they apply. It's simply very difficult to communicate across an abyss between radically different fundamental assumptions.
2007-09-26 08:08:20
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answered by G-zilla 4
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Everyone should be treated with equal respect...when they earn the respect.
Many feminists do no such thing...they demand it but don't do anything to deserve it.
Those are the ones who give feminists a bad name.
2007-09-26 12:53:34
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answered by Anonymous
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