This weekend in the LSU game they completed a fake field goal on 3rd down. In college football the play is dead once the players knee hits the ground. How can a fake field goal play stay alive once the holder gets the ball and his knee is on the ground and the play keeps going. Can anyone explain this ruling? Thanks for your help
2007-09-24 08:24:32 · 17 answers · asked by Richard M 1 in Sports ➔ Football (American)
Great question!
My uneducated guess would be that because the placeholder does not actively contact the ground while in possession (he's already there) he does not meet the criterion for ending a play. That would also explain why QBs have to kneel to stop the clock and can't just hike the ball laying down (besides laying down looking silly and possibly getting you trampled to death).
Here's my cheat by looking at the rulebook answer:
b. When any part of the runner’s body, except his hand or foot, touches
the ground or when the runner is tackled or otherwise falls and loses
possession of the ball as he contacts the ground with any part of his
body, except his hand or foot. (Exception: The ball remains alive when
an offensive player has simulated a kick or is in position to kick the ball
held for a place kick by a teammate. The ball may be kicked, passed or
advanced by rule) (A.R. 4-1-3-I).
2007-09-24 09:41:32 · answer #1 · answered by donfolstar 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Football Holder For Field Goals
2016-12-30 17:51:26 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I have been educated today. I always wondered why MSU's fake field goal against ND a couple years ago counted because the holder still had his knee on the ground. It isn't a matter of already being on the ground, or receivers would get off their knees and run after catches. It's the exception to the knee down rule. A holder gets to get up even on a fake and run, pass, or kick.
2014-01-01 12:22:30 · answer #3 · answered by Martyks 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Football Field Goal Holder
2016-10-17 07:38:16 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
This is a great question I have scoured the NCAA 2007 addition of my rule book and there is nothing on this. I would think based on what I can get from the rule book is that in order for a fake to be legal the holder must raise his knee off the ground before passing the ball to his intended receiver for it to be a legal play. I don't know if this is correct but I will ask my friend who is a BIG 12 referee this question tonight at our officials meeting.
2007-09-24 08:53:20 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
It was a legal play. It counts for a touchdown. It doesnt matter if his knee was down. In the 2007 NCAA Football Rulebook in Rule 4, Section 1, Article 3, Part B it states, "When any part of the runner’s body, except his hand or foot, touches the ground or when the runner is tackled or otherwise falls and loses possession of the ball as he contacts the ground with any part of his body, except his hand or foot. (Exception: The ball remains alive when
an offensive player has simulated a kick or is in position to kick the ball held for a place kick by a teammate. The ball may be kicked, passed or advanced by rule) (A.R. 4-1-3-I).
Sorry Gamecock fans you lost (it still wouldnt have mattered anyway because you were down by 16). So quit whining.
Sincerely,
A loyal Clemson Tiger fan
2007-09-27 01:52:05 · answer #6 · answered by me 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Well if the play would be over, then how would any extra points / field goals take place? The holder, in a kicking situation, is allowed to even get up from that position and run the ball / pass. It's a little hokie when you asked, but its just been that way!!
2007-09-24 08:30:07 · answer #7 · answered by mrkeef 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Very interesting question! I have no answer but wanted to let you know I am with you on the confusion.
Maybe it is an exception to the rule since that is the universal formation for field goals.
People keep bringing up the point that field goals would be called dead too. I think that is the point! Why aren't they called dead too? Get it through your heads!
2007-09-24 08:29:22 · answer #8 · answered by juicetke 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I thought the rule stated that a holder on a fake field goal must lift his knee off the ground before he can pitch the ball and he clearly didn t . So was the fake field goal legal ? no
2015-10-19 02:04:37 · answer #9 · answered by boomerrang_1 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The holder on place kicks is the exception to the rule.
If he was not, no field goals or extra points would take place because the holder would be considered down every play.
2007-09-24 08:34:35 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋