Would we have the great divide between the Democrats and the Republicans?

Question

If Liberals reasoned the way they did back in the days of President Kennedy?
Kennedy believed that, "An economy hampered by restrictivfe tax rates will never produce enough revenue to balance our budget, just as it will never produce enough jobs or enough profits."
In those days Democrats were for tax cuts. More than 80% of Democratic senators voted for Kennedy's tax cuts.

Chad: A third party is not strong enough to take the votes. That would leave us with the vote for the candidate that wants to increase our taxes and make this a Socialist country.

Tap158, You are so right on!

Answer 1

No we wouldn't but somewhere at the end of the Hippy era and the end of the Vietnam war the democrats Decided that they knew best how we should live they decided that with out their guidance's all would be lost and the only way to pay for it was to raise taxes and create bigger Government increase welfare and the best way to accomplish this was to attack the rich and big business thats why they supported Unions they passed laws to help them in their so called struggle against the Faceless Big Business and look what happened to the Steel industry and what happened to the Auto industry as well as textiles and all the other company's that folded or moved overseas because they could not compete in the global market because of their labor cost Somewhere in there they forgot that without Jobs there are no taxes payed but instead of figuring it out they keep pushing that they are for the poor people that they helped create and to keep their vote they have to keep up the rhetoric of raising taxes on the rich to give it to the poor as well as bigger government to control it all but the common working man has had enough and it is time to stop the Bull and get the Democrats out of our pockets and out of our lives

Answer 2

The Democrats need to divorce themselves from Move-on -dot-org and similar groups.
The Republicans need to divorce themselves from the Religious Right and similar groups.
BOTH represent EXTREMES. Both are only a relatively small percentage of the voting public.
It those extremes want to form a couple of extreme political parties, FINE!
Lets allow true Conservatives to populate the Republican party and allow the more moderate Liberals to dominate the Democratic party.
THAT would cure the vicious divisions existing between the two MAJOR parties.

Answer 3

Yes, we have the great divide. The country is divided in half right now because of the Democrats. When Bill Clinton was in the White House, we treated him with respect. When Bush is in the White House, it is a continual barrage of hatred about Bush. He is referred to as Mr. Bush and Bill is still referred to as President Clinton. The media including TV. newspapers and magazines needs to stop this Liberal bias. I for one don't ever watch CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, or MSNBC. I have cancelled by subscription to the New York Times, Newsweek, and Time. Enough is enough. Why should I have that Liberal bias crammed down my throat every day?

Answer 4

Kennedy's assassination spelled the end of true liberalism. Many scholars still argue that it was even more divisive than 9/11 for the American Right and Left.
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‘It therefore came as a shock when the police announced later the same day that a Communist had been arrested for the murder, and when the television networks began to run tapes taken a few months earlier showing the suspected assassin passing out leaflets in New Orleans in support of Fidel Castro. Nor was Lee Harvey Oswald just any leftist, playing games with radical ideas in order to shock friends and relatives. Instead, he was a dyed-in-the-wool Communist who had defected to the Soviet Union and married a Russian woman before returning to the U.S. the previous year. One of the first of an evolving breed, Oswald had lately rejected the Soviet Union in favor of third-world dictators like Mao, Ho, and Castro.’

"It is one of the ironies of the era", Piereson writes, "that many young people who in 1963 reacted with profound grief to Kennedy’s death would, just a few years later, come to champion a version of the left-wing doctrines that had motivated his assassin, Lee Harvey Oswald". And perhaps, in order to justify this radical change in worldviews, invented the paranoid fantasies that drove Oliver Stone's 1991 movie, and continue to inspire the farther elements of the left today:

“We’ve been talking about Martin Luther King Jr this night. My son [Casey] was killed the same day he was killed, on April 4th. I don’t believe in any coincidences. Casey was born on John F Kennedy’s birthday. He was born on the day, and died on the day, of 2 people who were assassinated by the war machine in my country. ”

It's probably not entirely surprising that I don't agree with a few of the suppositions that Peter Beinart of The New Republic made when discussing his new book, The Good Fight : Why Liberals---and Only Liberals---Can Win the War on Terror and Make America Great Again in his podcasted conversation today with Glenn Reynolds and Helen Smith. But I admire his efforts to try to return the modern left to pre-Camelot liberalism. Will anyone listen?
http://eddriscoll.com/archives/009158.php

Answer 5

The divide between Democrats and Republicans has always existed. The parties have changed over the decades and I doubt the party members of the 1950s would recognize their party today. Nevertheless, the divide has always been there.

America's third parties exist to fill that divide. It's foolish to think that all Americans can simply be lumped into one of two categories. Especially when most Americans lean left or right depending on the issue at hand.

American politics would be much better off if all Americans took the time to find the party that is truly in line with their beliefs. Continuing to force everyone to be either a Democrat or Republican just leads to a nation that is pretty much evenly divided on every major issue and thus no real progress or good legislation stands a chance.

Find a third party that meets your ideals: Libertarian, Green, Reform, etc.

Answer 6

This is very true. Unfortunately, after Kennedy's assassination, L.B.J. came out with his "Great Society" programs that grew taxes and government at an alarming rate. Kennedy believed, the way that true conservatives believe, in the strength of the individual. Not that government is around to "provide" for everyone that doesn't feel like getting out of bed and getting an education or a job!

Answer 7

After the Chicago riots at the 1968 Dem convention the Kennedy liberals and anti-communists in the dem party were purged, and the lunitics took over.

Answer 8

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YES, if today's Democrats were for tax cuts - if today's Democrats UNDERSTOOD how the economy works, then there would be far less divide.

The way the Democrat machine got votes starting with the New Deal was to keep poor people poor by preventing natural economic growth through reinvestment of income - by taxing that income, ostensibly to pay for their social programs - - - a self-perpetuating political system because you maintain a dependent class that has to vote for you to continue to receive their next meal. But it was an economically unsustainable system, since you need a large affluent class to pay for it, and the system prevented people from becoming affluent because then they would no longer vote for the system. It all blew up in the 1970s.

We then reversed the Keynesian policies then in place, introduced market reforms, and now, while the rich are getting richer, they're also getting a lot more numerous. We're creating a new affluent class - 1/4 of us have between $100K and $500K liquid net worth, excluding home equity. 1/10 of us have $1MM liquid net worth or more, excluding home equity. A generation ago those ratios were far less. And what of everyone else? They have cell phones, PCs, internet, cable tv, flat screen tvs, etc.... - and 10% more of Americans own their own homes than was the case in the late 1970s.

Most Dems want to return to the good ol' days and re-create the dependent class. They try to reverse the policies and lie about what the policies have brought about - by comparing incomes in the relative - because everyone's income and wealth didn't rise at the same rate as Bill Gates', somehow we're all worse off......... That message isn't resonating - some people think that even though they're better off and everyone they know is better off and dozens of neighborhoods that in the 1970s were too dangerous to walk through are now gentrified, somewhere out there - not just in southern Michigan - must be tens of millions of people whose conditions have worsened. But most people don't fall for it.

The Lefties' other tack is to take the new poor class - the one we've imported - and (a) use their numbers to lie about our economy (e.g., 1 million poor people come here legally and illegally combined every year, the number of poor people increases by 250,000, they say that must mean people are becoming poor), and (b) to recreate the dependent class by giving the illegals benefits and making them citizens thus able to vote for those benefits.

I don't think that's going to work either.

Answer 9

That was then this is today when the democrat party was taken over by the communist party.Today what want and work for the fall of the USA. Look at their hero Iran's little man of the 12th imam or 12Er's.

Answer 10

Those members of the old democrat party are now some of the better republicans of today. It is really a shame what has happened to that party. It is a clear example of what liberalism can do to a party let alone a country.