question about the holocaust?

Question

i have a question about the holocaust. Why do people just label that as something that happened to jews. It didnt their were crippled people, Political rivals, russians, POW's, blacks, gays, or anyone who hitler didnt view as a best friend. Now i am not one of those crazy's who say that it didnt happen but i wanna know what it seems that the jews are the only ones who make claim to it. They get their own homeland and are widely simpathized with. The remifications from the thought that it was only jews has led to the majority of terrorism problems we are in today. The holocaust also changed america from anti semetic to accepting of jews and going to war for them. Yes america was anti semetic we new of the holocaust before pearl harbor and did nothing. we have pictures of the camps. But i wanna know why this is the case and not just thought of as a bad time in humanity instead of a jewish strugle.

thank you for th time

yes 6 million did die but their was a large quantity of those other groups that were murdered and killed also. And those other groups were systimatically targeted and yes the camps were created to deal with them also not just the jews thats just a spin on history. You wouldnt say WW2 was just against japan and forget about the other coutries it was at war with just because they might not of been who they were originally after. the camps gas chambers etc were created to eliminate anyone who didnt go along with the nazi way of thought or ideals

i dont hate jews in anyway shape or form but i have a problem with things such as that. I am just saying i wanna know why a large group was pushed to the side and almost forgotten. I have read mein kamf and its messed up hitler was wacked outta his gore but that doesnt discount the other groups.

Answer 1

~Finally, someone who understands the scope and extent of what the Nazis really did.

Yes, about 6 million Jews died at the hands of Himmler, Heydrich and Göring. Of them, about 2.6 million died in the extermination camps. The rest died in the concentration camps. Of those in the concentration camps, many would have been sent to the camps had they not been Jewish. In all, about 18 million people died in the camps. Thus, 2/3's of the total were not Jewish. By comparison, very few were killed as a direct result of Operation 14f13.

Jasenovac was a Death Camp constructed and operated for the genocide of the Serbs. Although some Jews were murdered there, the Serbs account for more than 80% of the body count.

Between 10 and million Slavs were targeted for extinction by the Third Reich. When the Red Army repelled Barbarossa and won at Stalingrad, those Slavs were saved. The Germans were too busy fighting the war to round up their intended victims.

The Roma were all but totally wiped out in the camps and in the killing fields. A far larger percentage of them were murdered than were Jews.

The early concentration camps internees were political prisoners, communists, homosexuals, the physically and mentally defective, Jehova's Witnesses, academicians, criminals and like 'undesireables'. The Jews were dying in the ghettos, along with the Poles, long before the death camps were constructed. Those who made it to the camps, Jewish or not, were thereafter worked and starved to death. Conditions were pretty much the same for those who wore a triangle as they were for those who wore the star.

Some 10 million Soviet civilians died in the war. Of these, some were 'collateral damage', some were killed by Stalin's boys and the rest were murdered by the Germans simply because they were Soviets. The slaughter on the Ukraine was particularly bloody, but there will never be an accurate count of all the victims. Russian POWs were as apt to be killed on site at the time of capture as to be sent to a camp, be it Extermination, Concentration or POW. Of course, the Soviets treated German prisoners much the same.

That the world didn't care about the plight of the Jews is obvious. One need only read about the MS St. Louis or the Evian Conference to confirm that much. Churchill agreed to not mention the fact that the US was not accepting its stated quota of Jewish immigrants in exchange for FDR's promise not to mention the United Kingdom's anti-Jewish policies in the British mandate in Palestine. These were some of the nicer things that were done to the Jews at the conference. Goebbels made much propaganda use of Evian and the Nazis were emboldened to go forward with 'The Final Solution' as a result. They knew there would be no outcry from the world if they went forward. They were aware that the rest of the world would probably privately applaud their efforts. And make no mistake, the world knew what was going on. Jan Karski (Jan Kozielewski) had successfully infiltrated Belzek shortly after it opened and made a full report of what he saw. Actually, Operation 14f13 was rather short-lived. The Nazis themselves realized they were wasting valuable slave labor and they curtailed operations at most of the death camps long before the Red Army liberated them.

The concentration camps were modeled on the US Indian Reservations and on the British camps of the Boer Wars. The genocide programs were nothing new in history and Goering and Himmler followed the lead of the US Bureau of Indian Affairs in their operation. They used Zyklon B instead of rotted meat and smallpox infested blankets so, in that sense, they were more humane than had been their predecessors, but their ideas were neither original nor unique.

Israel was not created as a consequence of the Holocaust. Plans for a Jewish homeland were old news when WWII broke out. The war delayed the creation of Israel, it did not inspire it. But don't kid yourself. Yes, most of Israel's neighbors would just as soon see Israel erased from the map (again). However, with or without our support of Israel, anti-American hate and extremism would still be rampant in the Middle East and around the world. If Israel did not exist and US foreign policy was otherwise unchanged, Uncle Sam would still be hated. That is the price one pays for interfering in the internal affairs of independent nations and for supporting and bolstering the governments of tyrants like the Shah, Diem, Marcos, Saddam and the Saudis, and for training and arming terrorists like Osama (when he was on our side against the Soviets in Afghanistan). There is enough for the world to hate the US for without Israel. Don't make the Jews the scapegoat for that one.

Correction on your use of the term 'anti-semitic'. Are you aware that a majority of Semites in the world (and in the Middle East) are not Jewish. Most of the people killing Israelis in today are Semites. Iran is an exception, of course (must be an Aryan thing).

I agree with you in that remembering the Holocaust as strictly a campaign against the Jews is obscene and immoral. It dishonors the memory of the majority of the forgotten victims and is an insult to the non-Jewish dead. That does not denigrate what happened to the Jews. Iit just points out that the Jews did not, by a long shot, have a monopoly on the suffering and grief.

Answer 2

Lets see. We went to war because of the Jews. The Jews really control America. Terrorism is caused by the Jews. If we could just get rid of the Jews everything would be fine. I guess your gonna bring up the protocols of the elders of Zion next.

Answer 3

So let me get your point straight... the Jews should just "Shut Up and Stop Complaining..." Hmmmmmm... that sounds an awful lot like what Charles Lindburgh the famous aviator and noted anti-semite (Jew hater) said in the late 1930's in regards to the rumors that Jews were suffering in Nazi Germany.

Answer 4

Read Hitler's book, Mien Kampf. In it he says that the problem is with Jews. The others he didn't like either, but his main focus was on Jews. They were the only ones who were designated as undesirable by Hitler because they had to wear the yellow star on their clothing.

And then there's the fact that the Jews stood up and were counted.

Answer 5

You're right when you say others were involved. But the Nazis set out to eliminate every Jewish person from the face of the Earth. Jews were deported by the millions, tortured, starved, and gassed. The term "ethnic cleansing" didn't exist then, but that's what it was. And it's what's happening in Darfur even as we communicate and no one cares! I guess we haven't learned very much from the Holocaust.

Answer 6

It might have something to do with the fact that 6 Million Jewish people were wiped out systematically and deliberately, not in an act of war of rage, but with cold and calculated deliberation all because of their cultural identity.

It may also have something to do with the fact that the system was not set up to deal with those other groups - gypsies, gays, etc - but to deal with Jewish people. The others were swept up with the Jewish people.

Remember, it was referred to as 'the final solution to the Jewish problem'.

Think whatever you like of Israel and the way it was founded and asserts itself, and the way it treats or mistreats the other cultures within its own borders, but keep it separate from the Holocaust.

This was a people systematically butchered. 6 Million people: civilians, kids, the elderly etc. Of course it was about the Jewish people, of course they deserved help, of course they deserved our sympathy and of course the Allies who acted far too late deserve to feel regret and maybe even a little bit of guilt.

Answer 7

Remember, we allied ourselves to the greatest butcher in the 20th Century. His killings far outweighed those of adolph. Joe's purges is estimated at 30million....so why do we just think about the jews. Good question, Probably something to do with victors writing the history and the other so-called sub-humans not having advocates and spokesmen for them, as the jews had....