Is it TRUE there.s a school in USA where ONLY WHITE KIDS can sit under a TREE, not black kids?

Question

Im white and from england, but i find that a little strange and backwards.
almost like something they do in Saudi aRabia, which is a bit prehistoc shariah law

no we dont have stuff like that in england.

not with black people any way (sorry i think im not to call them 'black' in America, i dont mean to be rude I dont know, thats what we call them here)

so in england its not really a prob with the black guys over here, but more with Pakistanis. Some people, well lots are rude and call them "Pakis go home" as they can be ignorant, but I think its the whole anti-muslim thing at the moment

but NO! definitely NO THINGS about people of different colours cant sit under a tree.

sorry I dont understan what 'if clauses' means

Answer 1

there are cliques in American schools just like other countries

sometimes they mark their territory

from my understanding of the case in Jena, Louisiana, this tree was where white kids had always sat and at one time it had been a real hanging tree

being a Texan and having relatives from the Deep South, I understand the history of hanging trees and their significance today

many people do not

anyway

there are schools where kids do whites only thing and blacks only things or places, but not as a rule

for instance, there have been schools (and still are) where there is a black prom and a white prom

a prom is an end of year dance for high school students

and there are certain activities that certain kinds of kids do that others maybe do not

it is not always skewed in favor of whites, but in many cases these things are...but i have seen where black kids exclude others as well

think of things like this as really how racism is in the United States

de facto versus de jure

racism is against the law (de jure) BUT it is practiced in actuality (de facto)

Answer 2

There are a great number of trees in the state of Louisiana. If someone purposely goes to an area where they know others who dislike them reside, it seems to me this person is looking for trouble. It seems quite likely that the students who came to sit beneath the tree did not do it because they desperately wanted to sit beneath a tree and this was the only tree they could find. They were looking to push the buttons of the kids who disliked them. They were looking to instigate trouble. This was a territorial battle. Part of growing up involves grouping. It is something that people do naturally. They group together with people they have things in common with. If you know where your group hangs out and you purposely go invade the space where an opposing group usually hangs out, common sense says there will be trouble.

The black kids wanted a fight, but received a death threat instead. They then brought the fight and are now on trial for attempted murder. This may not have ever happened if leaders at the school had taught the kids how to get along rather than pretending no problems existed.

Answer 3

No, it is not true. At least it would not be legal. It would be a violation of national, and probably state laws. Segregation was ruled unconstitutional in the US in 1954 (and was illegal in most northern states long before that).

That said, it isn't too surprising to see kids acting with childish behaviour. At the school in question, and probably at many schools, kids form cliques, and probably one of the easiest ways to do so would be based on race. While kids have the right to choose their friends, staking out territories should be a violation of school rules, and should be punished at that level. It appears that the school, in this case, has failed to do an adequate job in maintaining the proper environment.

In any case, the vast majority of people in the US get along with people of other races just fine. That the few cases where people don't get along are considered newsworthy, is a pretty good indication of just how rare they are and how backward such people are considered by society in general.

Knowing both the US and Europe, I would say that racism exists at the about the same low level in both places, and is rejected by the vast majority of each population.

Answer 4

In the Deep South of the USA racism is so ingrained that most folks don't even think of it....still.

There used to be a rather lovely tree in front of the Jena, Louisiana high school. Traditionally, that tree was for whites only to sit under. A black student asked if he could join the white kids under the tree and without thinking they said no. The black kid went away.

Apparently some kid with more hate than brains heard this and put up a noose in the tree. This sparked some nasty comments on the part of the black students. That brought out the village idiot who started waving a gun around and making drooling threats. And that caused 6 of the black kids (obviously the dumbest in the school) to jump all over a white kid because he racially taunted them. And then the *shudder of anticipation* LAW took over and those kids are being charged with a serious felony.

In another answer I opined that the whole group of them should be sentenced to be incarcerated in steel-barred, barbed-wire covered playpens on the courthouse lawn for a week. If they're so bloody determined to act like fractious 2-year olds, then they oughta be treated as such....publicly! Maybe that'll learn 'em to GROW UP! And if not, maybe it'll give the rest of us a laugh and destress the situation.

Answer 5

Yes, there is. In Jena, Louisiana. The tree has now been cut down and used for scrap firewood, but it existed there for many years.

In case you haven't noticed when it comes to racism and hate, whites, at least in America pretty much take the cake. Here is a link for you:

http://glciii.wordpress.com/2007/08/21/jena-6-update-hanging-tree-cut-down/

I know the whole world is watching and these bigots should really be embarrassed, but instead they as usual, fail to admit their crimes and their hate, but go on to deny, deny, deny even though the world has EYES and can witness the hatemongering outrageousness all by themselves.

I guess it's not easy to admit when you're from a race that has notoriously practiced hate and violence, and bigotry since the inception of America. I hope whites in other parts of the world are not like these ones here in America.

I know the world is witnesses this outrage, yet as usual, they are still in denial when everyone sees what they are doing.

Answer 6

The black kids only wanted to sit there to start a racial fight. It's a f*%king tree for crying out loud! No, there is no law or rule about who gets to sit there but sometimes people gravitate to certain spots and it UNOFFICIALLY is known as their spot. If the white kids tried to sit in the black kids spot then they would have been labeled as trouble-making racists. They set out to start trouble and that is exactly what they got. Difference is, is that one group used a sensitive object to get their point across and the other group resorted to what they know best. GROUP VIOLENCE

Answer 7

When I was in elementary school, there was a tree where all the "cool girls" sat. They were all white, there was about 6 of them. It wasn't some rule that mandated only those 6 girls could sit there. But it was socially understood that that was there tree. There were two dorky boys that claimed the swings....

It's territorial crap that kids do. It's not the black kids weren't allowed to sit there, but they were made to feel unwelcome by the kids who had claimed it as theirs.

Answer 8

It is so sad, and frankly I am embarrassed to say that yes in a town in Jena La there still seems to be a town that lives in segregation. I am sure you read the same story I did. When I read the article about this practice I was sickened. I have traveled lived all over the world and I am ashamed that people in the USA (the land of the free??) still treat people like this.

Answer 9

They can keep that one tree. Why would we wont to set under anyways. I hard of it and also hard it was turndown. That is what they get for having a whites-only-tree and a whites-only-pie. They know we was going to get some sooner or later or it will stop. Peace!

Answer 10

Yes in some parts. Just be glad that you live in England.