Why if cons are supposed to be most prone to Nazism do we see 99.9% of anti-Semitism coming from progressives?

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stev – you are absolutely correct: This is a great write up on this phenomena:

“Progressive” Jewish Thought and the New Anti-Semitism
http://www.ajc.org/atf/cf/%7B42D75369-D582-4380-8395-D25925B85EAF%7D/PROGRESSIVE_JEWISH_THOUGHT.PDF

Brian - That is outstanding sir.

slykitty62 - I am sorry but, I am not going to post a million links to prove my point... Your request is a weak attempt at discrediting a sound fact. It doesn't work here.

ho - This is simply outstanding - 'an alternative explanation for the anti-israel sentiments among progressives is that jews tend to be rich, and progressives tend to hate capitalism. any group that contradicts socalism/marxism by prospering under capitalism is going to be unpopular among progressives.'

Ken - Not to confuse you with facts but -

JOHN CONYERS, JR.

Member of the U.S. House of Representatives
Member of the radical Progressive Caucus
One of 13 founders of Congressional Black Caucus
On March 23, 2005 Conyers spoke at a Lyndon LaRouche event in Detroit. LaRouche, a former Socialist Workers Party (SWP) organizer and follower of Marxist Leon Trotsky, co-founder of the Soviet Union, later embraced conspiracy theories and held at various times that the world was secretly controlled by Britain's Queen Elizabeth, British bankers, Israel or the Trilateral Commission. The Anti-Defamation League has described LaRouche as an anti-Semite.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1987


CYNTHIA MCKINNEY

Member of the radical Progressive Caucus

Told a Saudi prince she would accept his offer of $10 million that New

Told a Saudi prince she would accept his offer of $10 million that New York Mayor Rudi Giuliani rejected because it came with anti-Semitic strings attached

Voted against a resolution supporting Israel in the War on Terror, but refused to vote for a resolution condemning the anti-Semitic statements of a disciple of Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan

"She is a racist. She bases everything on race. Everything bad that has ever happened to her is because she's black. She's anti-Semitic, that's who she is." -- Rep. Tom Delay (R-Texas)
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1508

Robert Faurisson

This saga began in 1980 with Chomsky’s support of Robert Faurisson, a French anti-Semite who was fired by the University of Lyon for his hate-filled screeds. (“The alleged Hitlerite gas chambers and the alleged genocide of the Jews form one and the same historical lie,” Faurisson wrote.) Chomsky penned a preface to a book by Faurisson, explaining that the...

…latter was an “apolitical liberal” whose work was based on “extensive historical research” and contained “no hint of anti-Semitic implications.”
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1232

Jimmy Carter – no links required

I could go on and on but, you get the point.

Ken - I do agree with your latest edit. I did overstep by saying 99.9%. My apologies.

I do insist that comparatively speaking the majority comes from the Left.

Answer 1

They don't see themselves so much as anti-Semites as pro-Arab............

Answer 2

Jews have been a majority in the area wherein they initially declared independence long earlier 1948. Jews started out paying for land in northern Palestine in the 1800's. Its not as though all of the Jews left over from the Holocaust have been shipped there and given a state. this is achieveable that anti-semitism helped create Israel yet not for the justifications you're implying. the biggest way wherein the Holocaust and anti-semitism contributed to the creation of Israel become a feeling between Jews that they might only quite be secure from persecution in the event that they had a place the place they might run to if prefer be and the place they may well be secure so as to stay out their lives as Jews on their own phrases. not because of the fact Europeans felt accountable.

Answer 3

Not to confuse you with facts, but this is what the Anti-Defamation League has to say on the subject:

"America unfortunately has no shortage of extremists. Some come from the far right, primarily in the form of racist and anti-Semitic hate groups or anti-government extremists. Others come from the far left, including environmental and animal rights extremists. Some extreme movements may focus around a single, narrow issue, such as abortion and involve anti-abortion extremists who bomb health clinics. Other movements may stem from ideologies that stress racial superiority, fanatic religious beliefs or radical political views. Whatever their origin or nature, many extremist movements have adherents who are so committed to their vision that they are willing to break the law and to use violence to achieve their goals. "
http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/

There are good and bad people of all political persuasions. To attempt to demonize those who oppose your viewpoints by labelling them- racist, anti-american or communist . . .- is simply a juvenile attempt to discredit an argument you do not want to hear. Stop being afraid of the truth, you can handle it.

EDIT: To prove your point that 99.9% of all anti-semitism comes from progressives you cite 3 examples? Either you are being dishonest or you do not understand the basic tenets of reasoning. You cannot cite a few examples and then generalize to the whole. That is called inductive reasoning and is what is used to justify racism. My neighbor is an XYZ and was convicted of burglary so all XYZ people are thieves.

Answer 4

Compare history with this basic thought.
The people revolted because they felt the wealthy (and in charge) were not being responsive to the wants and needs of the citizens. They voer throw the government, take from the rich and spread it out amoungst themselves and from that moment forward, never again progress -- but they still manage to have those on top being wealthy at the expense of evereyone else. Hmmm.
People complain that they aren't being treated faily and that there is a clear divide between those that have and those who have not. They pass laws attempting to "level the playing field." Not enough, so they continue to pass more laws all in the name of "fairness." In no time at all, the government is over regulating your very existence. People forget to work and fend for themselves and become totally dependent upon the government for everything.
The point being, that those people calling the conservatives all sorts of ugly names are the very ones who fail to understand that it IS possibile to go so far to the left that you find yourself on the extreme fringe of the far right. Hitler was a liberal. Lenin and Stalin were both socialists. Hillary and HER democrats are both. Healthcare? Welfare? Gun control? Higher taxation? The idea of actually have to work and earn something (privilege) is lost to them.

Answer 5

Be sure not to confuse anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism.

[ The Davidic Empire, which archaeologists once thought as incontrovertible as the Roman, is now seen as an invention of Jerusalem-based priests in the seventh and eighth centuries B.C. who were eager to burnish their national history. The religion we call Judaism does not reach well back into the second millennium B.C. but appears to be, at most, a product of the mid-first.
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Some twelve to fourteen centuries of "Abrahamic" religious development, the cultural wellspring that has given us not only Judaism but Islam and Christianity, have thus been erased. Judaism appears to have been the product not of some dark and nebulous period of early history but of a more modern age of big-power politics in which every nation aspired to the imperial greatness of a Babylon or an Egypt. Judah, the sole remaining Jewish outpost by the late eighth century B.C., was a small, out-of-the-way kingdom with little in the way of military or financial clout. Yet at some point its priests and rulers seem to have been seized with the idea that their national deity, now deemed to be nothing less than the king of the universe, was about to transform them into a great power. They set about creating an imperial past commensurate with such an empire, one that had the southern heroes of David and Solomon conquering the northern kingdom and making rival kings tremble throughout the known world. From a "henotheistic" cult in which Yahweh was worshiped as the chief god among many, they refashioned the national religion so that henceforth Yahweh would be worshiped to the exclusion of all other deities. One law, that of Yahweh, would now reign supreme. ]

Answer 6

the previous answers aren't really that accurate.

israel bashing is very common among progressives.

the best example is the british teachers unions passing a resolution to boycott israeli academics this year to protest the occupation etc.

so, at face value, the reason progressives give for bashing ISRAEL is the occupation of palestine.

but, i would suggest that isn't entirely true.

it is a bit too hypocritical for the british academics to condemn israel for occupying a country when the UK still occupies northern ireland. similarly, these same anti-israel academics don't seem to bothered by morocco's continuing occupation of western sahara, china's occupation of tibet, etc.

an alternative explanation for the anti-israel sentiments among progressives is that jews tend to be rich, and progressives tend to hate capitalism. any group that contradicts socalism/marxism by prospering under capitalism is going to be unpopular among progressives. A parallel would be the well-documented discrimination against asian-americans in college admissions at elite (liberal/progressive) universities in favor of minorities who have failed under capitalism.

another possible explanation is deep-rooted anti-semitism in british/european culture. european culture has persecuted the jews for almost 2000 years, but then magically stopped after WW2? it seems unlikely that a culture could change that quickly.

and american progressives/libreals, tend to imitate europeans, for better or worse.

Answer 7

I would love to see some proof of this point.

If by fact you mean disagreeing with the decisions of the Israel government, I can't agree with you. Not all Jewish people in the world live in Israel and no one has attacked them merely for being Jewish. That is like saying that folks who disagree with this government are anti-American. It's just not true, not matter what you hear from Rush and Hannity.

Answer 8

Ludicrous! You are trying to imply that every American who opposes Bush's war in Iraq is this, basically.

A minority in Europe. Yeah.
Me? My "kind"? No.

Wheres the link. I MEAN ABOUT 99.9% of American Liberals doing this? There is none.

Cover up for the fact most hardcore American conservatives can be QUITE anti-semitical. I work with jews I know

Sorry, your credibilty with me is now zip.

-Jim W

Answer 9

Being critical of the Isreali Government does not equal anti-semitism. Being critical of the American Government does not equal being unAmerican either.

Answer 10

Cons are only prone to Nazism in the talking points of liberals.

Anti-Smeitism and racism is alive and well dominantly in the democratic party. Even those who claim to be fighting racism are pushing it forth. See Al Sharp-tongue and Jesse Jack@$$. They are the most outspoken racists in the media, and the dems love them. Anti-semitism in the dems is the same thing.

Answer 11

Oh get real, we aren't anti-Semitic.......

We just feel we should get out of these Holy wars and let Israel fight their own battles...and it is true, if we'd never taken their side, we'd never be in this mess to begin with.

We are in a holy war that has nothing to do with us. I am not anti-Semitic....and no one said Conservatives were pro Nazi....no thinking person.