If the Holocaust did not happen, would Israel have been created?

Question

It seems Israel was created by the League of Nations and the United States in response to the horrific events of WWII - and I was just wondering if the state of Israel would have been created if WWII or the Holocaust never happened. What do you think?

For those of you who say "Jesus was an Israelite" - I say learn your history. Israel, as it exists today- only came about because of a U.N. resolution in 1947 that partitioned parts of Palestine! Israel was "officially" formed in 1948!

Answer 1

I personally think that Israel as a state would not have been created if not for WWII and the Holocaust. There are two factors: A lot of European Jews moved there as a result of the Holocaust and because they weren't welcomed elsewhere. And the British, who controlled that part of the middle east, gave up its control of the area as a result of the war and of the influence of the United Nations (not the League of Nations), which was formed as a result of the war.

Without the war and the Holocaust, it might have happened eventually, but those two factors really pushed it.

BTW, Jesus was an Israelite. He was a Jew, and that is how they often referred to themselves in history. A resident of Israel is an Israeli.

Answer 2

I don't think so. It was created due to increased sympathy for their people. They had no official central government or location, and they deserved one.

A lot of people responding to this question obviously don't know what they're talking about and need to take a history lesson. Israel was not a recognized, sovereign nation until after WWII when there were all these displaced Jews with nowhere to go. It is true that Israel existed biblically, and there have been children of Isreal for a long time, but there was not an official, recognized modern state up until then. Before, they had shared the land with the Palestinians, but now that it is designated as "Israel" by the rest of the world, that got the Palestinians upset and hence all the fighting in the area.

Answer 3

You missed out. Yes, much happened, many nations were born.

T'was the British Balfour Declaration of 1917, got the wheels rolling. British reneged on this idea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

Also, the Zionist movement started in the 1800's

"A precursor to the Zionist movement of the later 1800s occurred with the 1820 attempt by journalist, playwright and American-born diplomat Mordecai Manuel Noah to establish a Jewish homeland on Grand Island, New York, (north of Buffalo, New York, USA). In 1840s, Noah advocated the "Restoration of the Jews" in the Land of Israel.[16]


Rise of modern political Zionism
Before the 1890s there had already been attempts to settle Jews in Palestine, which was in the 19th century a part of the Ottoman Empire, inhabited (in 1890) by about 520,000 people, mostly Muslims and Christian Arabs—but including 20-25,000 Jews. Pogroms in the Russian Empire led Jewish philanthropists such as the Montefiores and the Rothschilds to sponsor agricultural settlements for Russian Jews in Palestine in the late 1870s, culminating in a small group of immigrants from Russia arriving in the country in 1882. This has become known in Zionist history as the First Aliyah.[17] Aliyah is a Hebrew word meaning "ascent," referring to the act of spiritually "ascending" to the Holy Land.

While Zionism is based heavily upon Jewish religious tradition linking the Jewish people to the Land of Israel, the modern movement was mainly secular, beginning largely as a response to rampant anti-Semitism in late 19th century Europe.

Moses Hess's 1862 work Rome and Jerusalem. The Last National Question argued for the Jews to settle in Palestine as a means of settling the national question. Hess proposed a socialist state in which the Jews would become agrarianised through a process of "redemption of the soil" that would transform the Jewish community into a true nation in that Jews would occupy the productive layers of society rather than being an intermediary non-productive merchant class, which is how he perceived European Jews. Hess, along with later thinkers such as Nahum Syrkin and Ber Borochov, is considered a founder of Socialist Zionism and Labour Zionism and one of the intellectual forebears of the kibbutz movement.

In the same year 1862, German Orthodox Rabbi Zvi Hirsch Kalischer published his tractate Derishat Zion, positing that the salvation of the Jews, promised by the Prophets, can come about only by self-help.[18] His ideas contributed to the Religious Zionism movement. "

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Also, Bible scholars started taking the Bible as LITERAL TRUTH in the 1800's, and many felt that Israel would become a nation AGAIN in the future.

Several see events of Israel's history since 1948 birth as symbols of the LIFETIME of a Biblical Hebrew, growing into adulthood.

In Matthew 24, Jesus referred to a "generation" not passing away before certain events might happen in the final days before His return. If these events have not happened, and many are awaiting His return with eyes looking at current events, then one must consider that a "generation" could be 70 or 80 years. Could be 2018 or 2028. Some are looking forward to 2011 without "clear" literal words to base this upon.

Maranatha! Revelation 22:20

Answer 4

Israel, the State, replaced into no longer created till 1948. formerly then it were partitioned by utilizing the British between the Jews and the Arabs. human beings might want to correctly be puzzled with the actual incontrovertible truth that many Jews tried to to migrate to Israel from different international places in Europe and Asia the position they were unwelcome. as well, international places that were "welcoming", set limits on the quantity of refugees they were keen to take, which made Israel that a lot extra eye-catching.

Answer 5

No, chances are that Israel would have been annihilated during the 1948 war of independence. This is because the Holocaust displaced large numbers of European Jews, leading them to seek out other places to go. Most went to Israel, where they won independence from the Arab states and Palestine, and formed the democratic state which is there today. Without those numbers from Europe, there surely would have been too few Jewish inhabitants of Palestine to hold off the Arabs.

Answer 6

The league ceased to exist in '46 and Israel was created in '48.
More Jews may have emmigrate to Palestine, which at that time lived side by side togetherin peace.
Firebrand Jews may still have wanted to create a homeland, but at the time they wanted the Brits out more.
It was them who first started the indicriminate bombings on things like hotels that the IRA and modern groups now use.

Answer 7

It's unlikely. There was an international wave of sympathy for the jews after WW2 which made things a bit easier for them.
Nobody thought they would end up acting like the Nazis with their racial superiority to the Palestinians.

Answer 8

Israel was sanctioned long before the World War - by England (Balfour Declaration of 1917). There was always a large Jewish population in the area - contrary to what Palestinian activists would like you to think.

The end of WW2 drew alot of attention to both Jewish peoples and the Palestinian Territory (names as such as an insult to the Jewish people living there - recalling the Philistines, which have nothing to do with the area). I believe in 1948 Israel was granted independance.

Answer 9

Israel existed before the Holocaust, maybe not as a formal nation but it existed none the less. The holocaust was a horrific effort to destroy God's chosen people which will never happen.

Answer 10

Look up Balfour Agreement and the history behind it....the Holocaust gave the Israelis a new impetus in making Israel a reality