Who agrees that Christmas is a Pagan holiday?

Question

Go ahead, challenge me, and then check back for my added details disproving every one of your points.

Glad you agree, fonzie.

Alright, let the games begin. Starbrite, look in your bible. If you have a separate (false) bible, exclude it. Does it say, anywhere in the original bible, to celebrate a holiday for Jesus? To celebrate material wealth? Jesus was against that. To incorporate many other holidays dedicated to false gods into one that is supposedly dedicated for our lord? If it is such common knowledge, why does nearly every christian (mainly in U.S) celebrate it?

Alright Music-ily. Do you think YHWH (God) would like it if we celebrated the dead by dressing up as terrifying creatures? Huh? I don't need to waste my time e-mailing you when I can type responses right here. And by the way, Easter, Halloween, and Christmas are all completely pagan!!!!!!!! It does not matter if we are celebrating the birth of christ, even though we don't know his date of birth, and analysis of the bible will tell you that Jesus was most likely born in the spring, not the winter. We only celebrate it in the winter because that is when some of the old pagan holidays were celebrated. Example: Winter Solstice = Partial worship of the evergreen tree, which always stayed green during the winter, and is now why we celebrate christmas with a so called "christmas tree". Do you think the Lord would approve?

Lizzie, you know what you are talking about. Yet you still celebrate the holiday, right? Facts aside, if you know it would be a good thing not to celebrate a pagan holiday and claim it is for our Lord, WHY CELEBRATE IT? That is my question to all people who answer.

Oh yeah, and music-ily, notice in my original question that I never said a damn thing about Halloween. The topic is and was on Christmas.

The point is Starbrite, do you celebrate the acursed holiday? Do you? Dont dodge the question with a smart comment. Your statements shatter when you agree that it is pagan, yet you will celebrate it. Ladies and gentleman, this is called a hipocrite!

People, by nature, are quick to disagree with new ideas disagreeing with ones they were brought up on.

Oh, and to Bobvob, the name CHRISTmas is supposedly to christ right? Then why do you celebrate all the pagan rituals involved with the holiday? Is it because everyone else is doing it? You can't judge a book by its cover.

Anyone who ever views this question, notice the righteous answers I give out to all the people who opposed me. No one here out-debated me. Does this not tell you anything about the holiday?

AHHHHHH, Lizzie, I thought we were at an agreement. Alright, the answer that you gave tells me this: You enjoy the festivities of it. Alright, that is understandable. It would be acceptable, but the fact is is that it is a RELIGIOUS holiday. You are having fun at the price of your religion. I don't think having fun is worth me being looked down upon by my creator. (I am no scholar, or historian, I am a 15 year old).

Starbrite, Starbrite, Starbrite. I could say the same thing for you getting a kick out of it also, now couldn't I? You could've just ignored my challenge and gone to another question, but you came back. I agree with your quotes, and let me tell you this, I am not judging you, nor am I looking down upon anyone. I am just explaining, (one christian to another) my views with others.

ps The Lord allows every human free-will. Do what you want, but remember my explanation.

What are you asking Daisy? If you'd like to comment, dont read the comments im giving out to others. Answer the original question, and we'll see where it goes from there. If you're just one of those people who is a smart aleck, dont bother challenging me.

Daisy, this aint about me. I am very religious. I personally would not like to have a profession in law. State your opinion or leave. (Notice I am on the defensive)

All done? I am suprised as to how many of you did not mention Santa Clause in any of your opinions. Guess you all stopped believing in him long ago. (Joke)

Alright people, when I say Pagan, I am not actually refering to the Pagan religion. I am using the word as the Israelites do, I am refering to all who are false in their practices of their religions. To me and many others, Christmas is a PAGAN holiday!!! And yes, I do believe Jesus exists damnett!! Why else would we be having this heated debate!? So, fukingruvin, when I say pagan I am refering to false practices not dedicated to our lord!! And my question clearly asks, Who agrees that Christmas is a Pagan holiday? I did not intend to fight with everyone!

Dragon master chelsea, of course his disciples did not celebrate the holiday! He, the Lord Jesus Christ himself did not celebrate his birthday!!!!!!!!! He was non possessive!!! He did not care about material worth because he knew it would not matter in the end!

To fukingruvin - If you had read my comments earlier and understood the way my views were put together, you would know that I am using the word Pagan not literally, but more as calling non-believers pagan. It looks as if though I am the one who has my facts straight, and the fact that I am a teenager doesn't change a damn thing.

Those of you who are ignorantly spewing out false facts and lies you believe, aren't noticing that the historians who answer my dang question are backing me up because they know something about the holiday!!! That's more than I can say for the rest of you who are challenging me!

Steeler, this one's for you. The question is soley on Christmas. I will celebrate any religious event I agree with with my fellow christians as long as the holiday does not involve Pagan rituals. A.K.A Christmas rituals. I am all for the birth of Christ, but I don't need to celebrate purposless holidays that will only get me in trouble with my creator.

Answer 1

In general, Christmas is a Christian Holiday that's dedicated to celebrating the birth of Jesus.

However, old pagan rituals have been incorporated into the holiday of Christmas years ago by the Christian Church, to try and convert them to Christianity.

For example: The Christmas tree and Christmas lights.

Any way, I love the holiday of Christmas and can't wait for it to come around!

I'll also be launching numerous posts against radical liberal lawyers who want to steal the Christmas joy away from Americans. (So stay tuned!)

Answer 2

Christmas has roots in pagan holidays. There is an interesting reason why Christmas falls in December. Christians (and others) celebrate the birth of Christ in December. Historians feel he was actually born in the spring.

The longest night of the year falls in December. The Jewish Festival of Lights (Hanukkah) falls in December. The birthday of a popular Roman Deity, Mithra is December 25th.

So, when the early Christians began looking for converts, the birthday of Christ (The Light of the World) fell conveniently in December.

Many fear darkness- hence the celebration of lights in December and Christ as the Light of the World.

So, yes, Christmas has pagan roots.

No argument here!

Yes, I celebrate the holiday (and Easter, too). I like the 'message' of the holiday- not just the trappings (gifts, food, etc). Christ was sent into the world to save us. It was dark and sad (winter, for example). He brought light into the world (spring and resurrection). Just because a holiday has/had pagan roots to it doesn't mean it isn't/wasn't worth celebrating. Celebrating is a good thing! Just don't overdue it!

Answer 3

Why would I argue that? It's common knowledge, isn't it? And I'm speaking as a Christian. They just decided to celebrate the birth of Jesus on a date that corresponded with the pagan holiday to "replace" the holiday and I also heard part of the reasoning was so the Christians could celebrate without fear of persecution. No one would know they were actually celebrating Christ. I don't think many Christians will argue that point.

EDIT: Um, ok. You're correct, but I don't see how that changes anything I said. I don't deny that most people (including Christians) aren't focused on the celebration of Jesus birth at Christmas. Jesus is not against material wealth, He is against the hoarding and misuse of material wealth, we should freely give to others, materially and otherwise.

EDIT: Ok, since you're obviously getting a kick out of this, I'll satisify whatever warped agenda you seem to have. Christmas is a holiday that began with pagan origins, and YES I DO CELEBRATE IT. And you keeping saying "our Lord" let me remind you of something our Lord said, "Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned, forgive, and ye shall be forgiven." Luke 6:37. If you are a Christian, you are mistaken in your attitude towards me and I would like to inform you that are not presenting Christ in an effective or respectful way. I'm not being rude, I just want you to know you can alienate people with this kind of attitude like you have me.

In fact, going back and looking, this entire question was a waste of time, you seem like you're just trolling and that is all I have to say to you. Please think about what I said.

Answer 4

I agree that Christmas is a Pagan holiday.

Here is what I found on a website-

Christmas and Easter: Jesus was not born on December 25. He was born about October 1, a time of year when shepherds kept their flocks out-of-doors at night. (Luke 2:8-12) Jesus never commanded Christians to celebrate his birth. Rather, he told his disciples to memorialize, or remember, his death. (Luke 22:19, 20) Christmas and its customs come from ancient false religions. The same is true of Easter customs, such as the use of eggs and rabbits. The early Christians did not celebrate Christmas or Easter, nor do true Christians today.

Also I found this in a book-

The Bible does not say anything about a birthday party for Jesus. In fact, Jesus' early followers did not celebrate his birthday.

People choose to celebrate His birthday on the 25th of December because, as the World Book Encyclopedia says "The people of Rome already observed it as the Feast of Saturn, celebrating the birth of the sun." So people chose to celebrate Jesus' birthday on a date when Pagans already had a holiday.

Also why Jesus couldn't have been born in December was that the Bible says that when Jesus was born, shepherds were still in the fields at night (Luke 2:8-12) And they would not have been out there in the cold, rainy month of December.

Answer 5

Christmas is not a pagan holiday, however there is a holiday that the pagans celebrate around that same time of year. The day we celebrate christmas is based on a Hebrew Calander. So get your facts straight before you make yourself look like an idiot! You cannot disprove my point that you are teenager, because an adult would have more maturity and know not to talk about something that they do not have concrete evidence.


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If you had your sh*t togeather you would not have mislabeled nonbelievers as Pagans, because there is a religion called Paganism and the followers are called Pagans. That would be like me calling non-christians Muslims.

Answer 6

So what is your point exactly? Go back to the time of Oliver Cromwell and the Puritans. Otherwise let the rest of us good Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus like we have been doing for over 1,000 years,

Otherwise your free to not celebrate the Birth of Christ as after all the Bible doesn't say anything about celebrating his Resurrection as well so do you deny that as well? Actually the earliest Christian celebrations date back to January 6th the Epiphany of the Lord. Goes all the way back to 361 A.D. and was originally celebrated in the Eastern Churches. It celebrated Jesus birth, the visit of the 3 magi, and his Baptism in the Jordan by John the Baptist.

Answer 7

Christmas is no longer considered solely a pagan holiday, since Christians took it over a number of centuries ago. However, if you read the history of how Christmas today came to be, it did originally start out as a pagan holiday and the name Christmas and the Christian ties didn't come into it until hundreds of years later.

(Dragon's comments are correct. There's also a lot more detail to how it came to be considered a Christian holiday.)

Answer 8

Let's see.. your question says "Who agrees that Christmas is a Pagan Holiday." A few people challenged you based on what they know from church and probably growing up.

A few people actually agreed with you and gave some facts to back up their statements and your question.

You added some comments along the way. What are you looking for? You got some supportive answers. I'm confused. Has the question moved on from the basic one to another?

You just wrote that you are 15. Well, then, you have a lot to learn. You like to argue and debate, maybe you should go into law??? ;)

Answer 9

Every religious holiday from Passover to Thanksgiving has pagan roots and parallels and that fact does not lessen the legitimacy of 'judiazing' and/or "christianizing" them. All the rituals given in the Old Testament have pagan origins and parrallels. Happy Christmas! Shana Tovah!

Answer 10

xmas is for xtians, Yule for Pagans

I didn't realize this was going to be a long debate. We Pagans (our family) celebrate Yule or Yuletide, beginning with the second harvest in November. We respect the xtian xmas but never let it get in the way of our own celebrations. Our festivities officially end on my birthday, January 14, since I'm the crone and demand it as my privilege.