Americans aren't loyal enough these days, RIGHT?

Question

Too many americans (a.k.a liberals) have sympathy towards the muslims who want to "slit our sons' throats" in america. Knowing the current facts estimating how many americans have died since 9/11 to these muslim bastards, any loyal american would proudly side in any argument against anyone who is backing these muslim extremists. RIGHT?

How about this Ethan M: Those extremist bastards killed 3000+ INNOCENT americans in one fatal attack. Thats not good enough for you? Do you think another 10,000 must die before America gets the picture? We were smart to invade those bastards and hunt them down in their own homes.

Alright smrtgy2000, Whenever I refer to them as "bastards" I am refering to the extremists, not muslims in general. You people who are speaking out against me are the people I am talking about when I say "aren't loyal enough".

I know how ugly war is, damnett!!! You people who are stating the obvious about the under handed methods being used against us is evidently why americans die in Iraq! And when i say disloyal, I am talking about the liberals who say that we should withdraw from Iraq. And what, Give Al Quaeda a victory? That makes f'ing sense, doesn't it? They will parade around, send videos to our f'ing govt. about how they had a victory over America!

Alright Henry VIII, you want a quote?

"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." - Patton, Greatest general America has ever had.

To Seamus M - Right on brother! Finally, another person that shares some points of views with me. God Bless You.

Answer 1

Man, I love Patton. I also love this quote from him: "General, If you had the Germans on one side, and Russians on the other, what would you do?" "Attack in all directions!"

I hate it when people don't even say the pledge in school. In the middle of a war!

And the sympathy for radical islam is disgusting. People call us the bad guy when a civillian dies because they where being a shield for insurgents, but they take no notice when these "freedom fighters" cut off someones head, or blow up children of "Allah".

Answer 2

Sure, Americans are very loyal these days.

Primarily, it seems to be the proud American Conservatives showing their true patriotic American colors.

However, to be fair though, there are still some good liberals around who are proud and loyal Americans.

Mostly, nationalism and patriotism is a Conservative thing though.

You're right on the money when you said that liberals show sympathy to Radical Islam (A.K.A.- Islamofascism).

Most of them want us to capitulate to the Islamofascists in Iraq, and even Afghanistan.

It's the mark of true insanity, right?

Answer 3

Your assumption about "loyalty" seems to imply that there is only one way to be loyal to a country.

You talk about how many Americans have died "to these muslim bastards". By the most conservative estimates, about 8000 -- and that's counting every death on 9/11 and every US casualty in the Middle East since.

However, of that number -- roughly half were killed by a group of terrorists from Saudi Arabia, led by a person who is currently in Pakistan. And the other half were killed because we decided to occupy a country in the middle of a civil war.

But neither of those says nothing about loyalty to the US.

What people want is our govt to obey its own laws. To follow its Constitutional mandates. To act in the best interests of the people, and to act in the best interests of our children.

Those people are being loyal -- not to an individual, or to an office, or to a particular program -- they are being loyal to the Constitution, and to the country as a whole.

You seem to think that anyone who wants to do things differently is being disloyal. Where in the Constitution does it say that there is only one valid opinion about any issue?

Answer 4

Um, no. You leave out a lot of facts in this. First of all, any American who decides to show sympathy towards the Muslims in other countries isn't anti-American. You can do one and the other at the same time. Not understanding that, you depict everything as black and white, and make it impossible to understand why.
We've killed millions of Iraqis and other Muslims over the past several presidencies, probably more so during this one than any other. Are their lives suddently less important than any other?

Answer 5

"Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president."- Theodore Roosevelt

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

Teddy Roosevelt was a LIBERAL and most liberals I know agree with these statements. You obviously don't. Instead you prefer absolute obedience to fearless leader as they did in Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany.

Answer 6

I understand your point but I fail to see what an unprovoked attack on Iraq has to do with 9/11

Answer 7

Loyalty to a President is not a virtue. Loyalty to the constitution, yes. I'm loyal.

Forced to sign loyalty oaths?

That's a tool for tyrants.

Answer 8

WRONG.

I think there's a difference between loyalty and foolishness. And I think your question is full of foolishness and propaganda you've been fed by politicians looking for support.

Edit: And I have no reason to be loyal to someone who lies about issues and who ends up polarizing people more than "uniting" them.

Answer 9

i would consider myself a liberal and a loyal american...
i agree with you 100% i have absolutely no sympathy for those muslums what so ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Answer 10

You would think so, however we are at war and our enemy uses every underhanded method there is to try to change people to their side. For Instance,

In the past few years, Islamists engaged in "media jihad" have increased their efforts to expose as broad a Western audience as possible to their jihad films, which purport to document the growing success of the mujahideen in Iraq and Afghanistan. As part of this endeavor, they have posted jihad films on popular free video-sharing websites such as YouTube, LiveLeak, and Google Video, hoping that such films will tip public opinion in the West against the war in Iraq and Afghanistan - thus pressuring Western governments to withdraw their troops from these countries.
As part of the campaign to foster anti-war sentiment among Westerners, and more specifically among Americans, a member of the Al-Mohajroon Islamist website with the username Al-Wathiq Billah instructed mujahideen in how to infiltrate popular American forums and to use them to distribute jihad films and spread disinformation about the war.
The following are excerpts: [1]
"Raiding American Forums is Among the Most Important Means of Obtaining Victory in the Fierce Media War… and of Influencing the Views of the Weak-Minded American"
"There is no doubt, my brothers, that raiding American forums is among the most important means of obtaining victory in the fierce media war... and of influencing the views of the weak-minded American who pays his taxes so they will go to the infidel American army. This American is an idiot and does not [even] know where Iraq is... [It is therefore] mandatory for every electronic mujahid [to engage in this raiding]."
"It is better that you raid non-political forums such as music forums and trivia forums... which American people... favor... Define your target[ed forum]... and get to know it well... Post your contribution and do not get into... futile arguments..."

Indicate You Are an American
"Obviously, you have to register yourself using a purely American name... Choose an icon that indicates that you are an American, and place it next to your nickname [in the forum]."
"In my experience, the areas most visited in American forums... [are titled] 'Random Thoughts' and 'What's going on in your mind?'... [The former] takes priority in the American forums, and is highly popular. You should post your contribution there... This should include films of the mujahideen in Iraq, mujahideen publications in English, and images and films of the Americans' crimes, [such as] killing unarmed civilians in Iraq... etc."

"Invent Stories About American Soldiers You Have [Allegedly] Personally Known"
"Obviously, you should post your contribution... as an American... You should correspond with visitors to this forum, [bringing to their attention] the frustrating situation of their troops in Iraq... You should invent stories about American soldiers you have [allegedly] personally known (as classmates... or members in a club who played baseball and tennis with you) who were drafted to Iraq and then committed suicide while in service by hanging or shooting themselves..."
"Also, write using a sad tone, and tell them that you feel sorry for your [female] neighbor or co-worker who became addicted to alcohol or drugs... because her poor fiancé, a former soldier in Iraq, was paralyzed or [because] his legs were amputated... [Use any story] which will break their spirits, oh brave fighter for the sake of God..."

How to Make Americans Feel Frustrated With Their Government
"You should enter into debate or respond only if it is extremely necessary... Your concern should [only] be introducing topics which... will cause [them to feel] frustration and anger towards their government..., which will... render them hostile to Bush... and his Republican Party and make them feel they must vote ton bring the troops back from Iraq as soon as possible."
"Do not... discuss issues pertaining to Arabs or Muslims at all, whether negatively or positively... because this could be a trap for you... In addition, do not ask people to circulate the material [you have posted] in other forums... as these types of requests will expose you..."