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For me it has . I absolutely do not respect anything that comes from Moveon. . . . AND anyone who supports them . In fact I don't even care to hear anything from people who would support such an act . Sure Moveon and all of us have free speech , and that's cool . But we all have the freedom speak-out against it too. . . something some of our liberal brethren seem to forget .
So yes , this is a defining moment in my view . I've always been aware of Moveon and what they're up to , but chose to ignore them . Never spoke-out against them . But for me this was the final straw .

But what about you ? -- Has this Moveon ad been a defining moment for you too ?

2007-09-18 08:59:03 · 21 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government Politics

FYI I asked a different question about Moveon , but in this one I'm wondering just how far this went for you . A defining moment or not .

2007-09-18 09:05:11 · update #1

21 answers

Nothing the left does or says is or should be a surprise as they are evil and traitors of the USA and have been for a long time and have worked so hard to bring us down with the 1963 Commie gaols they have done.
1963 Communist Goals
The following was entered into the Congressional record by Albert Herlong, Jr. (a Floridian who served in Congress from 1949-69) in 1963.

1) US acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war
2) US willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war
3) Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the US would be a demonstration of "moral strength"
4) Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5) Extension of long term loans to Russia and Soviet Satellites
6) Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination
7) Grant recognition of Red China, and admission of Red China to the UN.
8) Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the Germany question by free elections under supervision of the UN
9) Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the US has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress
10) Allow all Soviet Satellites individual representation in the UN
11) Promote the UN as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the UN as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo)
12) Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party
13) Do away with loyalty oaths
14) Continue giving Russia access to the US Patent Office
15) Capture one or both of the political parties in the US
16) Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions, by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17) Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for Socialism, and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in text books.
18) Gain control of all student newspapers
19) Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20) Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.
21) Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.
22) Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings", substitute shapeless, awkward, and meaningless forms.
23) Control art critics and directors of art museums. " Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art".
24) Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25) Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography, and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.
26) Present Homosexuality, degeneracy, and promiscuity as "normal, natural, and healthy".
27) Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch"
28) Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state"
29) Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30) Discredit the American founding fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man".
31) Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of "the big picture:" Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32) Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture - - education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33) Eliminate all laws or procedures, which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34) Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35) Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI
36) Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37) Infiltrate and gain control of big business
38) Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand or treat.
39) Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40) Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41) Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42) Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special interest groups should rise up and make a "united force" to solve economic, political, or social problems.
43) Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44) Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45) Repeal the Connally Reservation so the US can not prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.
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Check http://www.glennbeck.com for more

2007-09-18 10:21:41 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

The Moveon.org people are exactly what this country should be careful of. They espouse freedom of speech-only if you concur with their agenda. They support change-only if it is radical and once again, in their best interest. It is clear that they want to transform U.S. society into a socialist model. For some reason Hollywood types and other performers seem to be enamored with them. What truly makes this organization dangerous is that they are funded by people with ample resources ($). The Democrat party has basically agreed to support their far left philosophies in exchange for political gains/monies. Now Moveon.org is calling in favors and those they aided have no choice but comply with their wishes.Those members of congress who "sold out" to them are no more than mouthpieces for their causes.

2007-09-18 20:19:54 · answer #2 · answered by ugandanprince 3 · 2 0

status as much as head-On and protecting Petraeus might have required character. to boot - he's a Democrat, they are wanting to ward off any 'sturdy information' from popping out of Iraq. in actuality - you ought to evaluate that Generals like Swartzcoft, Powell and Petraeus basically tend to ensue under Republicain administrations. under Clinton we've been given Clark - who merely approximately began a conflict with Russia by using sheer ineptitude.

2016-10-04 23:06:46 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

What surpise me more about moveon.org's ad was not the ad but how the front runners for the DNC wouldn't say anything about it.

Than to have Hillary to call Petraeus a liar was over the top.

Smearing the military will work well to get moveon.org bucks but when it comes to face mainstream America it is a gift from heaven for the GOP.

2007-09-18 09:24:04 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

I wouldn’t consider it a defining moment.

I have been watching, reading about and studying the Hate America, traitorous Left for quite a while now. I would say it has solidified the truth of who the enemy within is.

2007-09-18 09:35:25 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Isn't this the same man congress voted overwhelmingly to support (81-0) and sang praises about his judgement? Now, because his findings oppose their political agenda, they decide to trash him. I guess their MoveOn.org masters are making these puppets dance to a different tune.

2007-09-18 20:47:22 · answer #6 · answered by Dan K 5 · 2 0

It wasn't a defining moment for me...simply because I already knew MoveOn.org was beneath contempt. This just reaffirmed it.

2007-09-18 09:13:01 · answer #7 · answered by kathy_is_a_nurse 7 · 3 0

not really... I heard of the site but never visited. And if it wasn't for all the outcry in the media and on here, I probably wouldn't even have known about the ad.

2007-09-18 09:09:00 · answer #8 · answered by Lily Iris 7 · 2 0

No, it hasn't. I disagree with them on the Petraeus attacks, but it doesn't change my view of anything they've said in the past. Nor does it affect anything else in politics, Moveon.org isn't exactly mainstream.

2007-09-18 09:06:24 · answer #9 · answered by whiteflame55 6 · 3 1

Calling someone a name really can't be a defining moment, can it? I don't support them, but if they want to act childish, it doesn't affect me, General Petreus, or anyone else.

2007-09-18 09:06:08 · answer #10 · answered by C.S. 5 · 1 1

Just another LIEberal propaganda site passing out typical liberal BS.

2007-09-18 10:08:24 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

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