Sick fish...dont know why?

Question

A few of my fish look like there bleeding internally. How do I fix this??? I dont understand temp is good...ph is good...nitrates and nitrites are at 0 and ammonia is perfect.....

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Answer 1

Can you post a pic? That would be helpful.

This can be Septicemia (which is actually not a disease but a symptom of other diseases such as Aeromonas, Vibrio (see this article: http://www.americanaquariumproducts.com/Vibrio_Aeromonas.html ) or Flexibacterial infections.

You also may be dealing with ammonia/nitrite poisoning as others have suggested.

For ammonia/nitrite poisoning; a 30 minute bath in Methylene Blue (which is a reducer) will help as it also aids in the oxygen carrying ability of the blood.
Use tank water for this bath and throw this away after each bath twice per day. This bath is also helpful for some bacterial and fungal infections as well.
For more about these baths, please see the Methylene Blue section of this article: http://www.americanaquariumproducts.com/Aquarium_Medication.html


For internal infections your best option is Kanamycin, however please get your water conditions in order first. I know your ammonia/ nitrites were good, please check these as well:
*pH- stable (a changing pH is hard on a fish osmoregulation)
*KH- 50 +; important for a stable pH
*GH- 100 +; important for elements such as Calcium that are essential for osmoregulation (please see this article: http://www.americanaquariumproducts.com/AquariumKH.html ). Please note that without proper osmoregulation, an internal infection will be tough to beat.

Good luck :~)

EDIT;
Your pictures are helpful however it is still hard to discern much more information from them (except maybe the last one).

I would definitely re-check water conditions and that includes GH (for calcium and magnesium) as your fish look strong but for the red streaks. Keep in mind that most bacterial pathogens that cause septicemia are opportunistic and water conditions (including previously poor conditions) play a role in their out breaks.
Also as Mrs. Crabs noted, please make sure all parameters are in order before treatment, this is why a bath as I noted earlier is helpful (no in tank medication with a bath), so is proper mineralization (which is VERY important to platties!).

Again as I noted an easily absorbed antibiotic is generally best if used. Another key point is that most true nitrifying bacteria are gram positive, so the choice of an antibiotic that is primarily gram positive is another consideration. Kanamycin is primarily gram negative, whereas Erythromycin is primarily gram positive and the Tetracycline family is generally mixed (more towards gram positive though and this includes Minocycline, the active ingredient in Maracyn 2)
References:
http://www.americanaquariumproducts.com/AquariumMedication2.html
http://www.bioconlabs.com/autoheterobac.html
http://www.novalek.com/kordon/articles/aquarium%20filters.html
http://www.americanaquariumproducts.com/Nitrogen_Cycle.html

Answer 2

I cannot see the symptoms that you are mentioning in your pictures. They are rather fuzzy and red streaks on orange fish don't translate very well. Sorry. So, I'm just guessing here, but, anyway, Carl is the only one who mentioned Septicemia, which it most likely is, but as Mrs. Crabs said, please don't just jump right into medicating. Medications are sooo stressful on fish and kill the beneficial bacteria in the water as well, which means you have to recycle your tank, which we all know is no fun. If your ammonia, nitrites and nitrates are all truly reading perfectly, which I do have to question if your fish is showing signs of septicemia (are you using strips vs. liquid tests to test your water? Strips are not very reliable), but, rough handling and/or stress from water changes, etc. can cause temporary septicemia streaks. Simple stress streaks should go away after a day or two, however, so if they are not, I would then suggest treatment. I would go for salt first. Salt still kills the beneficial bacteria in the water and you will need to recycle, but it is much less stressful than medications and relieves stress and improves the slime coat. Use non-iodized salt (aquarium, rock, kosher) at 1 tsp per 5 gallons of water. Pre-dissolve in water and then slowly add to tank, mixing well. It will take some time to completely treat, so don't expect miracles in a day or two. If you feel you need to move on to medications, I would suggest Maracyn-2. I have had great success with this product.

Answer 3

You didn't mention what type of fish you have, as like someone else said, it could be perfectly normal for that type of fish. Also, PLEASE PLEASE don't jump right in to medicating your fish especially since you don't know what is wrong with it/them, if anything. Doing something like that could kill all of your fish.
Without knowing the type of fish, or what exactly it is your are talking about (where, how big, etc.), I am giving you a link that may help you determine what is going on. I would first find a picture of the fish online and see if it looks like your fish. If it does, nothing else need be done. If it doesn't, then you move on to getting suggestions as well as doing research on your own. NO ONE here can give you a "for sure" diagnosis on your fish, no matter what they say. You cannot properly diagnose something like this without seeing the fish. Use these answers as guidelines...or ideas. Here is the link (actually 2 which may be of help): http://ag.ansc.purdue.edu/courses/aq448/diseases/bacteria.htm and http://www.aquariumcorner.com/disease.htm
Again, I can't stress the importance of being relatively sure of what you are treating if you are going to treat something....for the sake of your fish.
I'm sorry I don't have a perfect answer for you, but I hope what I've said and the links I provided can be of help.
Good luck!!! ;o)

Answer 4

Depending on the type of fish it can be normal OR it could signify a bigger problem like internal worms. Put them in a seperate tank away from the healthy ones and pick up some chems for worms to see if it clears up. You can usually get a good deal on www.thatfishplace.com

Answer 5

Love + Plain Sick.

Answer 6

This sounds like your tank is cycling, because on the end of the cyle you're not suppose to show nitrates at 0

but your ammonia i suppose to be at 0

I would do a 50% waterchange right away, and keep up doing 10% every day until your tank is done cycling

your fish have most likely ammonia or nitrite poisening, please read up on cycling a tank
http://www.fishlesscycling.com/articles.html



Hope that helps
Good luck


EB


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Answer 7

I would need some more information like species of fish. This could be nothing or it could be a serious bacterial infection. Good luck!

Answer 8

other than antibiotics that you can buy at the pet store i dont think they have that many remedies for sick fish. Ask someone at the pet store, hopefully they will have someone with the expertise to answer your question.

Answer 9

Your fish look fine to me.