Did all schools stop teaching kids how to spell and use basic sentence structure in the English language?

Question

I feel so sorry for the children. It has become acceptable for kids to use poor grammar and even worse spelling. The kids will grow up to become illiterate adults. They dont even care to try using spell check anymore either. They don't have a chance in the business world. Just how many employees does MacDonalds need, anyway? These questions and answers which are so poorly written are in a science category which should be from and to educated people. How can anyone take you seriously when you cant even spell simple words? Do you really think that you will find the answers to the universe from someone who spells the word 'should' like 'shud'? I think not. I feel so sorry for you people. You won't even understand this until you ask the lady on the other side of the desk at the welfare office.

Ok, so I did happen to mis-spell the name of the sleeziest food chain in our nation. That is because I refuse to eat there for obvious reasons.

I also believe that it is not the teachers but the school system at fault.

Answer 1

been thinking the same thing

and what will happen when these illiterate kids try to read to there own children

it saddens me to think of it

and it saddens me that it is somehow acceptable in schools

as you said , it looks like everyone has just given up , and now the lowest denominator sets the school agenda

all the best
Ian

Answer 2

Although I totally agree with you, you lose points for spelling McDonald's as MacDonalds.(also an apostrophe for can't)

Unfortunately, teachers no longer feel as if it is their place to correct things such as grammar or basic writing skills. This should have been done by the teacher before them, the child's parent(s), or will be taken care of by the reading "specialist".
I mean, how much do you expect them to teach in a 4 hour instructional day?

Don't get me wrong, I know that most teachers are in it for the children and want to make a difference. They just feel beaten down by the system and their misplaced loyalty to their union. I think they miss the point. You don't need to "prep" children for tests. Teach them and they won't just memorize things, they'll actually know it. I guess prepping is just easier.

We'll eventually get back to a system where the children do indeed come first and no child left behind will not mean no child will be left back.

Answer 3

Dear Bitter,

You might have displayed a semblance of credibility if, in fact, you spelled correctly: For example, it is “McDonald’s” not “MacDonalds.” Not only did you misspell a worldwide known proper noun, but also misused the appropriate punctuation (use of the apostrophe). In essence, the logic you present is Form over Substance, and the latter is directly related to intelligence (try making it past the interview screening process at Google, or similar entities, by presenting Form over Substance).

The use of shorthand in an effective, efficient manner certainly does not directly correlate with one’s intelligence or future business world prospects. Cases in point: Bill Gates and most colleagues (misspell; use virtually no basic grammar such as punctuation and capitalization); similarly, many techies (Steve Jobs…) and scientists (the late Richard Feynman…) do the same in their use of emails, bulletin boards, and informal interactions (written and spoken).

Differentiate between colloquial and formal communication.

Best of Luck

Answer 4

I apologize for my unintended mistakes, especially for possibly missed "the" and "a" articles. Generally I agree with you - people should watch their language. Having said that I want to make two points: 1. Many people posting here are foreigners. There is a thing called the "network externality" - you want to be a part of a bigger network, bigger forum etc., because you benefit more from it. That's why people hang out on the main forum, not on smaller local forums. 2. Majority of participants are young and even if English is their first language, they have this "e-mail/SMS/IM" style. They are in a hurry all the time

Answer 5

I'm in California which is possibly and probably the worse of them all as far as education goes. I'm also a substitute teacher (not sure if I want my credential right now because of the BS in the schools).

The higher ups decided some time ago that they should allow students to spell words the way they sound. That's fine, except then they took away phonics to boot. So now students no longer learn the basic rules of grammar and spelling. It's the same way in math too. Students no longer learn the basic concepts of mathematics either. So now you have students who can't read and can't process math without their fingers and toes.

In California, as I am sure it is spreading nation wide, Teachers are told that they can only teach these things for this many minutes per day and that doesn't include learning to spell or do math. We are being forced to "Teach to the Test." Meaning the state standards tests. Our students are no longer getting the basic concepts that they need in order to learn correctly.

It is our education system who is turning out these illiterate students who will work for McDonald's later. God help our country if it doesn't change soon. We are now seeing that not only are today's students being sent away without an education but their parents didn't seem to get an education either. That means that not only are the students NOT getting what they need in the classroom but they are not getting any help from home either.

The only way things are going to change is for Parents to get involved.
How many of you realize that you can opt your student out of the state test? You can go to your school and sign a paper that you do not want your student to participate in the state test at all. Not only does your student NOT take the test, but they are allowed to be at school and the school has to make acceptable arrangements for the student while testing is in progress. The only problem with THAT is that your student will STILL be "Taught to the TEST".

It would need to be a trickle UP theory. It would take one parent to opt out; then a whole classroom to opt out; then a whole school; then a whole district. If we as parents stood up and said NO MORE! We want our students to get a proper education, then they'd have to listen and change the system.

Educate yourselves parents and know yours and your student's rights.



Whoah! Hold on there CGAA72!! It's NOT the TEACHER's faults!! As teaches we are only allowed to do what the districts and States tell us to do. We are just as frustrated as you all are and we can't change a damn thing! It's not us being faithful to our Union or anything else. Teacher's fight every single day to be ALLOWED to actually TEACH your students!! Here in California, we are told that we can only teach language arts for the first 90 minutes of every day. And math is the next 75 - 90 minutes. NOW do the math. Where are we supposed to fit in Social Studies, Science, P.E., Music AND Art?! The SYSTEM is so bad that even if we do get a productive leanring conversation going on with our student's we are forced to stop it and move on; we are forced to stay on pace with every one else.

If you want to slam someone, first get all the info and then slam your state's education policy and system.

Answer 6

Does anyone ever try to read printed instructions for products? I can hardly make sense of them. It seems that articles, prepositions and proper syntax have become optional. I fear we're going to see the King's English deteriorate into Pidgen English.

Answer 7

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Answer 8

the kids don't have to sit down and do homework like they used to. the computer gives them all the answers.so they don't have to try and figure out anything for themselves. once they get the answer they need from the computer they go on and forget all about it. thats why the kids don't know anything today.

Answer 9

I am in 11th grade and I bet over half of my class cannot spell there own names! It is ridiculous. They don't teach us anything in school now days, and on top of that, what they do teach, no one wants to learn.

Answer 10

I don't have that much problem with misspelled words... it's the 'text message' stuff that's making me crazy!... THIS is not a text message area... it's a place to ask questions and get answers, hopefully.... but you won't, unless someone can understand what it is that you are asking!.... if they'd just save the texting for on their phones...................???...............