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they tasered this student during the Q&A session of John Kerry's speaking engagement??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE

what right did the campus police have to restrain him??

did he pose a threat to sen. kerry's safety??

what happened to freedom of speech??

was this a use of excessive force??

2007-09-17 23:49:06 · 12 answers · asked by young, black & gifted 2 in News & Events Current Events

but what reason did they have to take him into custody? how will they justify putting their hands on him?

if you listen - you hear john kerry telling the officers "thats alright, let me answer his question"

2007-09-18 00:06:27 · update #1

i will agree, once they "restrained" him - he shouldn't have resisted. it clearly made things worse.

2007-09-18 00:08:28 · update #2

12 answers

To everyone calling him a stupid guy: It's not about him not resisting orders to shut up. It's that this guy has the right by our constitution to say whatever the hell he wants as long as he doesnt threaten anybody. He was just questioning and the police had no right to arrest him. This kind of sh*t enfuriates me...

2007-09-18 15:52:42 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 4 1

Did the University of Florida Campus Police use excessive force yesterday? God damn right they did. This type of jack-booted thug police action against innocent people has disturbingly become all too prevalent. This is no longer the USA, but rather the USSA. Kerry said and did absolutely nothing. He emotionlessly urged calm while the jack-boots assaulted a student for merely exercising his rights and asking difficult questions. Kerry provided exhibit A for all the world to see; evidence that he is a spineless, principle-less, punk-*** political hack and tax payer funded parasite.

The egregious police behavior displayed is absolutely unacceptable and is what one would expect from a banana republic, not in what is presumed to be such a "free country". America is becoming a police state, with an increasingly militarized, authoritarian law enforcement agenda made more disturbing by the well known tradition of bullies gravitating into the profession, coupled with the all out federal assault on due process, habeas corpus, the bill of rights and essentially 700 hundred years of liberties enjoyed since the Magna Carta.

Something is very wrong with this country. The government is literally out of control, and in a way that cannot be rectified by the two party circus held every four years, more commonly referred to as the presidential election. The election, beyond being an advance auction of stolen goods as Mencken said, is but a competition between two thoroughly corrupt political parties who use every means necessary legal and illegal to thwart any real competition to their monopoly of power. The "two party system"has become little different than a one party state, of the type we fought in WWII and during the Cold War. We are approaching the point of no return, (if it is not already passed) whereby there can be a peaceful political remedy. If our lethargy and complacency allow the country to continue down this path, sooner or later the only alternative will be resistance and bloodshed. It will be too late. The rule of law is being replaced with the arbitrary and capricious rule of man.

Would George Washington, Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, Samual Adams, Paul Revere and Benjamin Franklin among other patriots approve of what has happened to their republic? Hell no they wouldn't! There would be a call to arms. Think about that next time the 4th of July rolls around. A day made possible by revolutionaries, who spilled blood, fighting and dieing for independence from an arbitrary government, and not so a future one could be established in Washington. When you are eating hot-dogs, waving the flag, watching the parades and listening to speeches about how "free" we are. As you see your smiling local "law enforcement" roll by tossing out candy along the parade route, remember that not only are they on the front line assaulting your freedom, harassing motorists, persecuting citizens for victimless crimes instead of focusing on violent crimes, disrupting free speech and breaking the traffic laws they enforce so they can get to the doughnut shop; like the police in every tyranny and government gone bad in history around the world, they are not your friend. Make no mistake, they will arbitrarily enforce whatever law is enacted, if need be with deadly force; regardless of how draconian, immoral or evil, with few exceptions. Ask any European Jew who survived WWII about "Officer Friendly", whether they lived in Nazi Germany, Vichy France or Holland. In view of yesterday's travesty, I think it is perhaps apropos to invoke hip-hop legend Public Enemy's popular tag line: "**** THE POLICE".

2007-09-19 06:40:44 · answer #2 · answered by rpct1 1 · 1 1

freedom of speech is becoming a myth.
I mean, come on! He was lying on the floor!
On the bright side, we can now know about this kind of stuff:
information wants to be free, and internet is the right way for it.
Plus I don't think campus police has the right to do so: they can use force to protect propriety or people (just a guess)
To the guy after me: he had no right resisting the arrest?
Are you ******* kidding me?
What if M. Luther King or Ghandy had listened to you?

2007-09-17 23:54:54 · answer #3 · answered by Ant-lion 5 · 2 1

and Kerry didn't intervene! What a jelly-fish!

"To understand free speech means freedom to speak what others do not like and even cannot stand to hear ... Tolerating what you like is hardly a major achievement. Hitler tolerated what he liked. So did Stalin. Idi Amin did too. So did Genghis Khan, the Shah, and Henry Kissinger. Free speech only becomes an issue when someone says what others don't want to hear."
Michael Albert

"We live in a nation hated abroad and frightened at home. A place in which we can reasonably refer to the American Republic in the past tense. A country that has moved into a post-constitutional era, no longer a nation of laws but an autotocracy run by law breakers, law evaders and law ignorers. A nation governed by a culture of impunity ... a culture in which corruption is no longer a form of deviance but the norm. We all live in a Mafia neighborhood now."
Sam Smith

"If the test of patriotism comes only by reflexively falling into lockstep behind the leader whenever the flag is waved, then what we have is a formula for dictatorship, - not democracy... But the American way is to criticize and debate openly, not to accept unthinkingly the doings of government officials of this or any other country."
Michael Parenti

"Democracy is not about trust; it is about distrust. It is about accountability, exposure, open debate, critical challenge, and popular input and feedback from the citizenry. It is about responsible government. We have to get our fellow Americans to trust their leaders less and themselves more, trust their own questions and suspicions, and their own desire to know what is going on."
Michael Parenti

The media serve the interests of state and corporate power, which are closely interlinked, framing their reporting and analysis in a manner supportive of established privilege and limiting debate and discussion accordingly."
Noam Chomsky

"For the media owners, allegations of a liberal bias make it easier for them to impose the conservative bias they prefer. For the pseudoliberals who work in the media system, confessing to a liberal bias is far more comfortable than admitting that they've sold out their beliefs for a nice salary. It's only because the mainstream media is so conservative that all these right-wing pundits can make accusations of liberal bias without opposition."
John K . Wilson

"What happened was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to be governed by surprise, to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if people could understand it, it could not be released because of national security ...
To live in the process is absolutely not to notice it -- please try to believe me -- unless one has a much greater degree of political awareness, acuity, than most of us ever had occasion to develop. Each step was so small, so inconsequential, so well explained or, on occasion, regretted.
Believe me this is true. Each act, each occasion is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join you in resisting somehow.
Suddenly it all comes down, all at once. You see what you are, what you have done, or, more accurately, what you haven't done (for that was all that was required of most of us: that we did nothing) ... You remember everything now, and your heart breaks. Too late. You are compromised beyond repair. "
German professor after World War II describing the rise of Nazism to a journalist

2007-09-19 19:07:22 · answer #4 · answered by Fraser T 3 · 3 0

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2016-10-09 09:42:16 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

He was asked to stop talking. He didn't. He made a scene, and then, when the police tried to escort him out of the building, he RESISTED. I think it is absolutely hilarious that they tasered him. And what makes it even better is the kid made an absolute fool out of himself on national television. You've got to love technology!

2007-09-18 14:43:06 · answer #6 · answered by Me 5 · 2 0

Have you ever had to restrain a person that you thought might harm someone and, was in a state of mind that would listen to orders? would stop doing what they were doing? didn't know if they were on drugs, were armed ? I have.

I remember one man coming into the front lobby of the casino and, started going crazy, he started swinging his arms, hitting people. it took six big guards to restrain him. What should they have done, stand and look. If you had been there and got hit, he was after you, should we have helped you, or?

Another time, a cook, went berserk after coming on the job, for no apparent reason he went simply nuts. It took five guards to restrain him, using pepper spray when they found out he had a butcher knife.
Had you been there, should they have let him finishes his job on you, until he calmed down. It was found out he was smoking crack and, had three beers before coming to work.

You have no idea what so ever what these people are up to. look at Virginia State and tell me that student had no ill intentions at the time?
If he had pulled a gun and shot ten people, what would you say then?

Until you've been there and, handled that type of situation, don't put those guards or police down, they're doing their job, I've been there, have you?

2007-09-18 00:05:05 · answer #7 · answered by cowboydoc 7 · 2 4

Free speech IS important, but not absolute. He was disturbing the peace, and had no more right to do so than I would to heckle George Carlin at a Carlin concert without being thrown out. I couldn't just stand there forever yelling "ha ha, I'm hijacking this due to freedom of speech."

He failed to comply with officers' lawful orders to leave, resisted apprehension, and got zapped. They were more than patient.

No sympathy. This had nothing to do with Kerry's safety, it had to do with disturbing the peace and resisting.

2007-09-17 23:58:39 · answer #8 · answered by Bill 6 · 2 4

this was not excessive force, the kid made an *** out of himself. Look at him, he is resisting arrest, he had no right to do that. He was trying to look like some sort of political activist and feel cool. I am not one to be in favor of police, but give me a break the kid was an idiot.

If he didn't go into a fit and went out peacefully with the cops with maybe a remark, I would be all for him and say the police were idiots, but how can anyone side with an idiot like him?

2007-09-17 23:56:35 · answer #9 · answered by burgler09 5 · 1 5

tried asking questions about this incedent - 3 times.
all 3 were taken down, ive never had a question taken down previously. this is an outrage.
im not a lefty, im not even american, i dont live in the u.s.

wake up!! its right infront of your eyes.

2007-09-20 01:48:19 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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