It's all about names and hype now. Darko had a few good workouts before the draft, got picked 2nd and is in the NBA solely on this basis now. He's a bust. Sebastian Telfair was the best high school player in Brooklyn...big deal, he's a bust. Josh Childress was picked 6th by Atlanta...bust! Adam Morrison, Kevin Durant...can I go on?
Do teams even do significant analysis on draft picks anymore? My art teacher once told me to always go with my gut on tough decisions...I bet Detroit wishes they did that in 2003.
What makes me disgusted is when teams take the thugs like Carmelo, Telfair and Iverson when they know they'll just take the money and run. The NBA draft makes me sick, I wish I could offer my services, I think I'd do a better job.
2007-09-17 20:19:27 · 7 answers · asked by Anonymous in Sports ➔ Basketball
Hype is not always wrong. LeBron James, Allen Iverson, and Shaquille O'Neal were the most hyped prospects entering the draft and they've more than exceeded expectations. It has a lot to do with a player's workout and the type of impression these players have on the team during these workout. However, hype doesn't always secure a prospect player a high lottery draft position. Orlando traded top draft pick Chris Webber to Golden State for 3rd pick Penny Hardaway when Webber was the most hyped and consensus # 1 player that year. Toronto drafted another power forward in Charlie Villanueva in the 2005 Draft (when they already had Chris Bosh) over more hyped college (Danny Granger) and high school (Gerald Green) players. Drafting a productive players has never been an accurate measuring game. It's a hit or miss game of roulette and like one of the previous Yahoo Users said, it's all just a crapshoot. Sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you hit a ditch.
Btw, I think the probability of Greg Oden becoming a bust more than Kevin Durant is growing everyday with every injury. I disagree with your assessment of Allen Iverson as an individual who would just take the money and run. If he was that kind of person he would have done what Carmelo Anthony did and resigned only a 3 year contract after his first contract with Philadelphia expired so he could become a free agent afterwards. He didn't have to spend 11 years of his career with the Sixers on a pretty crappy team throughout this whole period. A.I. never wanted to leave Philly until the Sixers decided it was time to rebuild and move on. Iverson is as loyal to a franchise as they come. Btw, Josh Childress is not a bust. How can you call a player with averages AROUND 13 points, 6 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 steal, and 1 block to go with 50 % field goal and 80 % free throw a bust? It's one thing to be disgusted with the league but it's another thing to make unjustified claims.
2007-09-17 20:29:20 · answer #1 · answered by JR 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Hype isn't regularly fallacious. LeBron James, Allen Iverson, and Shaquille O'Neal have been probably the most hyped clients coming into the draft and they have greater than surpassed expectancies. It has plenty to do with a participant's exercise and the kind of affect those avid gamers have at the group for the period of those exercise. However, hype does not regularly cozy a prospect participant a top lottery draft function. Orlando traded best draft decide upon Chris Webber to Golden State for third decide upon Penny Hardaway whilst Webber used to be probably the most hyped and consensus # one million participant that yr. Toronto drafted a further vigor ahead in Charlie Villanueva within the 2005 Draft (after they already had Chris Bosh) over extra hyped school (Danny Granger) and top institution (Gerald Green) avid gamers. Drafting a efficient avid gamers has by no means been a correct measuring recreation. It's a hit and miss recreation of roulette and prefer one of the most prior Yahoo Users mentioned, it is all only a crapshoot. Sometimes you get fortunate and often you hit a ditch. Btw, I feel the possibility of Greg Oden fitting a bust greater than Kevin Durant is developing every day with each damage. I disagree along with your evaluation of Allen Iverson as an person who could simply take the cash and run. If he used to be that type of character he could have performed what Carmelo Anthony did and resigned just a three yr agreement after his first agreement with Philadelphia expired so he might come to be a unfastened agent afterwards. He did not ought to spend eleven years of his profession with the Sixers on a lovely crappy group during this complete interval. A.I. by no means desired to go away Philly till the Sixers made up our minds it used to be time to rebuild and transfer on. Iverson is as unswerving to a franchise as they arrive. Btw, Josh Childress isn't a bust. How are you able to name a participant with averages AROUND thirteen features, 6 rebounds, two assists, one million thieve, and one million block to head with 50 % area target and eighty % unfastened throw a bust? It's something to be disgusted with the league however it is a further factor to make unjustified claims.
2016-09-05 18:07:36 · answer #2 · answered by boudreaux 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Seconnd time I've seen this question and with the same explanation... Hmm. Not satisfied with the previous answers?
First of all as a team GM, you employ scouts right? The scouts themselves advise you who or what type of player is this you are going to draft. If you have scouts and do not use them you are wasting money big time!
After hearing advises you go to a decision period. Am I going for popularity or the rings? This desicions will make you see how seriously the GMs are taking this situation. Bad decisions make the owners think twice on whether you're fit for the team or not. Secondly, the market pressure is on you. Making bad picks make people not support the team thus promting early dismissal. (As for Detroit, They knew they needed a Big man more than ever if they want to go deeper in the play-offs, they can't do it with just an under-sized and offensively challeged center (Ben Wallace) when Dumars saw how horrible his pick turned out to be he made one major adjustment that is to acquire Rasheed and thus winning for themselves their third championship trophy!)
Take for example this years draft, in what maybe one of the most talented pool of draftees in years. Portland made a decision to go for the tried and tested theorem that "Basketball is a big man's game". Oden truly is what they need (since unloading Randolph to NY). Popular votes would tell you that Kevin Durant was the best prospect out there. Portland opted to make their team more competitive, thus the selection of Oden.
See it's not the team's fault that their selected players turn out to be busts. It's the players themselves who determine if their going to be busts or not, if they do not adjust well to their team or the NBA style of play picks tend to busts in the end.
Hope that this helps.
2007-09-17 20:51:29 · answer #3 · answered by Darth Revan 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
How do you know that Durant is bust?
Furthermore, was duncan,olajuwon,AI,Shaq busts?
2007-09-17 21:35:09 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Um, yeah, he reprinted my question...BIZARRE. Look in my history if you don't believe me...why are you doing this?
2007-09-17 20:58:14 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
NBA teams have to take the draft very seriously as the NBA draft only has two rounds in the draft down from some 14 rounds a number of years ago where a number of teams did not take their 12th, 13th, or 14th round draft choice either passing or drafting someone from another sport who had no chance of making the NBA or a hometown player who had no chance of making the NBA.
Look at past #1 picks in the first round and rate them as successes or as busts:
McNeeley
Tonkovich
Shannon
Share
Melchiorre (never played in NBA because of one of many college point shaving scandals which were numerous and regular in the 1940s and the 1950s and continued through the 1960s)
Workman
Beck
Selvy
Ricketts
Green (Green was drafted at #1 before the St. Louis Hawks drafted Bill Russell, 11 NBA rings, at #2)
"Hot Rod" Hundley
Baylor (Finally, the NBA drafts a #1 pick who will end up as one of the 50 Greatest NBA players in NBA history; Hall of Fame; 0 NBA rings)
Boozer
Robertson (1 NBA ring won with Alcindor; Top 50 NBA player; Hall of Fame)
Bellamy (Hall of Fame; 0 NBA rings)
McGill
Heyman
Barnes
Hetzel
Russell (like in Cazzie Russell, not Bill Russell winning 1 NBA ring with the Knicks in 1970)
Walker (the late Jimmy Walker, not much of a success in the NBA, who died a few months ago)
Hayes (1 NBA ring, Top 50 NBA player; Hall of Fame while playing for the San Diego Rockets, the Houston Rockets, and finished his career with the Houston Rockets after playing with the Baltimore Bullets, the Capitol Bullets, and the Washington Bullets - 3 Rockets franchises and 3 Bullets franchises)
Alcindor (6 NBA rings, Top 50 NBA player; Hall of Fame)
Lanier (Hall of Fame; 0 NBA rings)
Carr
LaRue. Martin (Portland #1 choice at center; a total bust)
Collins
Walton (Portland #1 choice at center; 1 out of 3 ain't bad in Portland's #1 picks of centers; 2 NBA rings with the second as a backup player on the Celtics; Hall of Fame)
D. Thompson (signed with the ABA; did not sign with NBA)
Lucas
Benson
M. Thompson (2 NBA rings with Lakers as a backup)
E. Johnson (Magic - 5 NBA rings, Top 50 NBA player; Hall of Fame)
Carroll (a #1 NBA pick whose was Joe Barry Carroll and whose NBA nickname was Joe Barry "Cares Less")
Aguirre (the only NBA player I have seen who would go into a full panic when double teamed on the baseline and turn the ball over every time)
Worthy (3 NBA rings, Top 50 NBA player; Hall of Fame)
Sampson
Olajuwon (2 NBA rings, Top 50 NBA player; Hall of Fame)
Ewing (Top 50 NBA player, Hall of Fame, 0 NBA rings)
Daugherty
D. Robinson (1 NBA ring with Spurs; Top 50 NBA player)
Manning
Ellison
Coleman
L. Johnson
O'Neal (San Antonio Cole High.School grad, 4 NBA rings)
Webber
G. Robinson (Big Dog won a NBA ring as the 12th man on the Spurs in 2005 and retired)
Smith
Iverson
Duncan (4 NBA rings with Spurs; currently ranked #1 of the next 10 to enter the Top 50 NBA players which will probably be named in 14 years in the year 2021 and Duncan is ranked higher than Shaq, Kobe, or ai for the Top 50 NBA players in NBA history)
Olowokandi (Kandy Man)
Brand
K. Martin (went out of business with KMart's bankruptcy)
Brown ("420" Brown?)
Yao
James
Howard
Bogut
Bargnani
Oden (Portland #1 choice at center)
Out of 61 NBA #1 draft picks in the first round in NBA history only 8 are listed among the Top 50 Greatest NBA players in NBA history with only 7 of the 8 winning a NBA ring, only 10 NBA #1 draft picks are in the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame with only 7 of the 10 NBA #1 draft picks in the Hall of Fame have won a NBA ring as Hall of Fame consideration includes their college careers as there is no NBA Hall of Fame, and only 10 NBA #1 draft picks have won NBA championships as starters with 3 of these not in the Hall of Fame.
So, with only 10 out of 61 NBA #1 draft picks winning a NBA ring as a starter shows that a #1 draft choice in the first round guarantees very little.
Since 1985, only four of the #1 picks in the first round, that is a period of 22 years have won NBA rings including the Spurs David Robinson as a starter, San Antonio Cole High School grad Shaquille O'Neal as a starter, "Big Dog" Robinson as a 12th man on the Spurs, and the Spurs Tim Duncan. A lot of San Antonio connections with the only successful #1 picks to win NBA rings over the last 22 years. The #1 pick before that to win a NBA ring in Hakeem Olajuwon (drafted as Akeem Olajuwon) had to beat the San Antonio Spurs in the playoffs to win his NBA rings while Hakeem Olajuwon's two brothers played in the 1980s at the University of Texas at San Antonio where Hakeem Olajuwon would attend games when his schedule would permit to watch his two brothers play college basketball in San Antonio.
2007-09-17 21:14:23 · answer #6 · answered by Score 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
HEY!!!!!!!!
didnt you ask this already?
2007-09-17 21:06:47 · answer #7 · answered by sm30 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋