where did the matter that caused the big bang come from?

Question

if the big bang did happen
wouldn't it just be easier if people would believe that something supernatural possibly could have put the material there for it to happen?

well what about the car you drive or that bus you ride
you would say something that complex, something so perfectly put together that it does't fall apart (sometimes) couldn't have happened naturally overtime

everything is so perfectly put together
the human body, the seasons how could these things just come together so faultlessly over time without being planned

Answer 1

ahh grasshoppa great question
and im with you
it was not meant for us to understand so, I take it on faith....
even Einstein said its obvious that
a supernatural process was at work

Answer 2

The answer to your first question is unknown. because we have no way of looking past the Big Bang. Speculations on the origin of the material for the universe include
• it popped in from another universe,
• it's recycled from the previous universe,
and
• it's a vacuum fluctuation.

Yes, believing in a supernatural explanation is the easy way out and saves you from thinking beyond deciding which creation myth to believe. This is probably why creationism still attracts some people. Science, however, is not for the intellectually lazy.

Science is about finding natural explanations for natural phenomena (in its early days it was known as natural philosophy). From what we can see, the universe consists of self-sustaining processes, none of which require supernatural intervention to proceed. By observation or deduction we can trace these processes back to hypothetical origins. Although some steps along the way are unclear, there is nothing to suggest the gaps in our understanding hide divine intervention.

Answer 3

No, then we would have to figure out where that something supernatural came from. The problem with first cause is that you have to draw the line somewhere. Science choose to draw the line at Big Bang since there is where the evidence stopped and Religion choose to draw the line at God with only Faith and a 2000yr book as the source.

We might never know what was there before the Big Bang. We live in the spacetime continuum and it didn't exist before the Big Bang. So it is like we grew up in a room with no windows and we are trying to figure out what is outside the room.

Answer 4

Why would a supernatural something be easier? That's no explanation at all, and supernatural implies that there is no way to find out (and if its an intelligent supernatural something it could change the rules anytime it likes and then where are we)?

Logical mathematics and physics developed to meet observations over time may not be easier for you or me, but there are a lot of scientists and mathematicians who do understand it all. Just because some of us don't get it doesn't mean that its not correct.

Answer 5

One of the greatest achievements of 20th century physics is the mapping of the composition of the Universe. We're now very certain that the Universe does NOT have enough critical mass to "close" on itself, that is, that it would reverse expansion and collapse to another Big Bang.

Nobody knows how the Big Bang got to happen, since there is no empirical evidence that would indicate so. But there is plenty of evidence that the Big Bang happened, and we can point precisely as to how long ago it took place.

Recall that matter and energy are simply interchangeable, and thus talking about "matter" before the Big Bang is equivalent to stating the initial energy for the event.

Answer 6

The "Big Bang" is the name of the theory that tries to explain where the universe we now see, came from.

The theory can go back to a very short time after the creation of all the energy (it became matter a little later).
A very short time called the Planck time:
5 x 10^-44 second
0.000... with the 5 in the 44th position after the decimal point.

Let see if it can be displayed (you may have to run your mouse over it)
0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000539121 second.

We cannot go back to when the time was exactly zero.

We do not know what happened before that time (the Planck time).

You can imagine whatever you want before that time, as long as your supposition leads to a universe that has a temperature of 1.4 x 10^32 K
141,679,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 K
at the Planck time (this is called the Planck temperature).

This is the moment that gravity became a force by itself. The other forces appeared later, when the temperature dropped some more.

No matter existed at the Planck time (the universe was only energy, no matter could exist at that temperature); we think that no matter existed before, only energy. So you only need to imagine energy.

It is possible for energy to appear out of nowhere. We see that in the vacuum of space: virtual particles are created by the false vacuum energy of empty space. Most of the time, the energy is sufficient only to create one pair of the smallest charged particles (electron and positron). However, there is always a probability (small, but not zero) that more energy appears, creating more massive pairs (for example, muons and anti-muons, proton and anti-proton).

The more energy you want, the less probability of getting it.

So, to have enough energy for a whole universe, the probability is extremely small... but it is not zero.

And you only need for this to occur once.

Of course, if you go for this explanation, you may have to explain what happened to the anti-universe...

One theory I read a long time ago had 4 universes created:

A universe moving forward in time (ours); an anti universe moving forward in time; a universe moving backwards in time and an anti-universe moving backwards in time.

This one helped understand how "time" was created simultaneously with the appearance of the tremendous amount of energy. There was no time "before" time zero, therefore no need to explain what was there before the Big Bang.

But this part is just speculation, because our present understanding of physics does not allow us to go before the Planck time.

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Would it make it easier to imagine an eternal being who one day triggered the whole thing? I don't think so. We have to imagine that he got bore after an eternity (or two or seventeen eternities) and created a universe that has existed for a mere 13 billion years so far.

This represent, let's see, yes... exactly zero percent of the eternal supernatural being's lifetime.

Are you sure that a universe that has lasted exactly 0% of his existence, in which the race of humans has existed for even a shorter time (one millionth of 0%) will make it easier for us to understand? It will not work for everyone.

Does this prove the eternal supernatural being does not exist? no.
Does this prove that the universe could not have existed without a supernatural being? no

Science is not the right tool to decide if such a being exists. At least, not yet.

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I see you've added the bit about molecules nit being able to form by themselves.

But they can.

As complex as the DNA molecule is, even without the intervention of a supernatural being, it is not the result of pure hasard.

Most molecules have a shape which gives them polarity. A water molecule has a specific shape that affects how it reacts with other molecules.

Carbon based chains will have specific shapes. Enzymes will each have a specific pattern of polarities along their lengths. Other molecules that have matching polarities will fit a lot easier along enzymes.

Same thing as you move up the chain.

When the double strand of DNA splits in two, each strand will have a specific polarization pattern that will attract the "correct" molecules more easily than the "wrong" molecules, so that the assemblage of the new strands will go much faster than if it was left to chance.

This is simply the result of the shape of molecules; and the shape of molecules is the result of the numbers of valence bonds in different atoms (an atom with 4 valence bonds will impose different angles than one with 3).

Again, the existence of complicated molecules is neither a proof nor a disproof of the existence of a supernatural being.

Answer 7

I say it is a cycle. Right now science says the universe will keep expanding and fizzle out. As soon as they discover enough matter to cause a collapse - guess what? Another Big Bang. Now the real question isn't what started the cycle because it could have been going on for a trillion times a trillion cycles and more... the real question is how many of these cycles are going on right now! That's what I want to know!

Answer 8

Even Einstein reported that physics/technology/astronomy is barely valid interior of particular limits. At the two severe (tiniest and maximum huge), technology theories wreck down. Quantum mechanics won't be able to clarify the place rely is initially "from" nor can the different technology place. as a rely of actuality, no one is commonly used with of. as a result, we are confronted with an severe constraint of our very own information. there's a door or "something else accessible" that should shed easy. perhaps sending a chimp by a black hollow and recording what's on the different factor. considering easy gets "trapped" yet has no mass, something composed of rely can hardly "exist" upon absorption. i'm a non secular deist. There "is" something in charge for what we see interior the sky at night, what we see finding on the floor, etc. Randomness can in user-friendly terms bypass so a good distance. Ask Hawking the opportunities of the earth achieving its present day place, gravity, temperature, etc. you will win the a hundred mil lottery a hundred million cases first, to adventure the opportunities. risk does no longer practice an more desirable means, yet i decide for the religious deist way of information.

Answer 9

It is very likely that the Big Bang theory is just a theory and nothing more.The Reason is that it leaves open too many questions about the Creation of the Universe which they have no direct scientific Explanation. Never the less the theory bring out many interesting inovative ideas.

Answer 10

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Answer 11

The problems with "supernatural" explanations, is that they don't really explain anything. One supernatural explanation is that the big guy just made everything just 1 second ago. Including all our memories, and the fossils in the earth, and the light from stars just now arriving at the Earth (the stars don't exist, just the light).