ok, last night I had a game.. it got heated really quick when my team was up 3-0 in the first 5 mins... well one of the guys on their team went after one of the guys on mine... the guy on our team was 5'8" 135lb and NOT a fighter... the guy going after him was 6'1" 190+lb... so I jumped the bench and fought for him... I didn't go at it like normal this time b/c this guy had me out weighed by probably 30lb.. so I dropped gloves/stick/elbow pads/shoulder pads/ jersey... nothing to grab... he swung and missed, I connected, then picked him up and threw him to the ice and continued the fight on the ground... by then the benches cleared (really when I jumped) I ended up throwing elbows when on the ground... I was suspended for 5 games for a fight in a hockey game where it was out of control anyway... no-one else was suspended for anything, and all I was doing was protecting a teammate and teaching a lesson... was this ejection warranted?? I needed 3 stitches on my head and he needed 23
2007-09-17 02:29:23 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous in Sports ➔ Hockey
but you can't judge a penalty on damage done in a fight right??
2007-09-17 02:29:49 · update #1
as in the claim that I was taking it way too far.. 1 it was a Div.2 hockey game for college, and our team has been together since we where about 7 years old.. there is a little bit of protectiveness and pride in the game... and does scholarship count as being paid??
2007-09-17 03:29:42 · update #2
to answer the question of what he DID to warrant a "mugging" was through out the game he slashed, hooked, tripped the same guy every chance he could.. he wasn't fast enough to catch him... so he resorted to those techniques.. refs. never made a call.. then when on a break away, he hooked the smaller player again but on the neck... again no call, our guy didn't like it (obvious) and said something.. in which time the ****** guy hit him (with glove on).. thats when I took over
2007-09-17 23:53:30 · update #3
While I would have done the same as you, I think that a suspension is warranted in this case. Protecting a teammate is one thing but teaching a lesson is what got you suspended. The thing about picking him up and slamming him to the ice is borderline assault these days (personally, I think he had it coming). Throwing elbows probably got you 5 games instead of less. It doesn't matter that he had 30 pounds on you or that he was going after a smaller player in the first place.
That's all, I'm just trying to imagine how the officials saw it. I think you are a great teammate for standing up for him.
2007-09-17 08:48:04 · answer #1 · answered by Awesome Bill 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
I'm going to answer this too, ok? (not a player, hope it's ok)
The 6'1" guy who started all this, he wasn't suspended? He came after your teammate... started this whole thing. You stepped in with good intentions, your other teammates would have done the same for you, if you needed them. You could've taken him from the start though, and had him good. You said the benches cleared, did you ask your coaches why only you were suspended? If no one else, the 6'1" guy should have been suspended for more than 5 games if you got suspended for 5 games. Yeah, that jerk deserved his 23 stitches. Hope your 3 are ok.
To: Jeff P - fair fighting? you mean to tell me hockey fights have "nice" rules that determine when players who are fighting can throw their punches? wow,,, never saw that one.... all hockey athletes must have missed that in the "how to fight in hockey 101" class.
To: Duffman - yeah, sorry, I invalidated my answer b/c I don't play hockey. I guess I should have just not said anything here. I offered some thoughts, just tried, that's all. this was about a div. 2 college hockey team... not NHL.
2007-09-17 06:33:13 · answer #2 · answered by ? 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Yup, an ejection for leaving the bench is pretty much standard. Not to mention ejection and suspension is standard for a non-fighting league. You're lucky you only got five, a lot of leagues would kick you out for the whole season. I realize you were just trying to protect your teammate but, as they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Nickygirl, you established you don't play and hence invalidated your answer. The "code of enforcer conduct" in hockey is a set of unofficial rules that governs how enforcers *IN THE NHL* fight....generally the rules are to make sure the fighting occurs on a somewhat fair level, without undue chance of injury, (i.e. fight stops when someone is one the ground). Of course, this set of rules doesn't truly apply to a non-fighting league.
Nothing was said about what this other player actually DID to warrant a mugging. If it was really bad (spearing, hit from behind, etc.) it should of warranted a suspension.
It doesn't matter that
2007-09-17 06:01:17 · answer #3 · answered by Duffman 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Yes. Going off the bench is against the rules. Then throwing him to the ground and THEN CONTINUING the fight... there is a code to fighting. You both go at it equal, and when one guy goes down, you don't touch him. It's over, unless he gets back up and still tries to fight you. There's also the pads thing. by doing that you're signaling that you are not interested in a fair fight.
By the way hockey fights aren't serious. I'm virtually identical in size and weight to the guy he was initially going after, and I would have appreciated somebody stopping him if he was actively going after me with a cheap shot, but not to the point where you do what you did.
and penalties can be judged on the extent of the injuries. in fact, any minor penalty is automatically bumped up to a double minor if there is blood. And suspensions should be the same way.
You should have been thrown out for more then that. it sounds like you really did a lot of damage to that guy.
2007-09-17 03:37:52 · answer #4 · answered by The Big Box 6 · 4⤊ 1⤋
Actually it's pretty standard. You may have fealt you were defending your team mate but alot of leagues have a "Third Man in" rule which allows refs to penalize someone outside the initial fight the same or worse than the initial fighters. This rule was introduced to minimize bench clearing brawls.
2007-09-17 02:58:02 · answer #5 · answered by deltaflotfan 2 · 6⤊ 0⤋
Removing all your pads and jumping the bench could be what warranted the suspension. They probably want to set an example to keep others from leaving the bench. They probably view you leaving as the cause for the bench-clear and want to make sure everyone knows it won't be tolerated. Sorry dude.
2007-09-17 02:34:14 · answer #6 · answered by camaro829 2 · 6⤊ 0⤋
you have to remember that ALL hockey leagues (NHL, USA hockey etc..) are suppose to fine players that leave the bench, even if they do it to come to the rescue of a teammate. According to USA hockey the minimum amount that you should be suspended is 5 games. Yes you were coming to help a teammate, but you were the third man in, and you left your bench.
2007-09-18 00:45:27 · answer #7 · answered by Hockeylover 2 · 2⤊ 1⤋
You were the 3rd man in, you get the suspension, it is totally warranted.
You mention this was a Division II College game? Where? (There are only 7 schools in the US that play Division II)
I have checked all the Canada and US college games over the weekend and didn't read about any suspensions.
2007-09-17 07:47:33 · answer #8 · answered by Like I'm Telling You Who I A 7 · 4⤊ 1⤋
Coming off the bench like you did, throwing elbows, and initiating the whole brawl... I think you should have been suspended for the season. You got lucky.
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2016-11-14 16:31:36 · answer #10 · answered by tegtmeier 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋