Do most people of Russian ancestry also have Mongolian ancestry?

Question

I heard this claimed in a chatroom, the person even claimed all people of Russian ancestry have Mongolian ancestry. The guy was rather bigotted, so I take his claim with a grain of salt (I already have with his absolutist assertion of all Russians being part Mongolian). Frankly, I doubt it, especially in the further western to south western regions of Russia where some of my ancestors were likely from, since they could have been Polish instead.

I am aware of the Mongol conquest.

Answer 1

Russia was under Mongolian domination for 248 years, during which time the Russians were COMPLETELY subjugated to the Golden Horde, obligated to pay an onerous annual tribute in the form of money, grain, furs, and slaves. Put simply, Russia was the property of the Golden Horde. To suppose that the Mongols did not rape and impregnate lots and lots of Russian women would be naive. At the same time, when the Yoke was finally lifted, some Mongol garrisons had been stationed in Russia for generations, and had become so Russified that many of their members simply stayed -- including some of my own ancestors.

Bottom line, it is presumptuous, of course, to say that ALL Russians have Mongolian ancestry -- but many, and perhaps most, do. Before ethnography fell out of favor, many ethnographers believed that a characteristic feature of Russian faces -- roundness and wide cheek bones -- are the surviving evidence of Mongolian genetic contribution.

As to WHERE in the Russian society you can find the most Mongolian ancestry -- I'd say it's pretty evenly spread out. "White" Russians did not come about until the 20th century, so it makes no difference. You might have Mongolian ancestry, too.

Answer 2

Russian Mongolian

Answer 3

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Do most people of Russian ancestry also have Mongolian ancestry?
I heard this claimed in a chatroom, the person even claimed all people of Russian ancestry have Mongolian ancestry. The guy was rather bigotted, so I take his claim with a grain of salt (I already have with his absolutist assertion of all Russians being part Mongolian). Frankly, I doubt it,...

Answer 4

If we sum up the numerous studies (http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/russians.html), we'll find that the mongoloid admixture in Russian population can't exceed 10% (in one small study) and most probably lower than 2.5-3%.
On maternal side mongoloid admixture is about 1.5% (in 1 study, and smaller in others), and it's higher in Southern regions of Russia, which makes historical sense - this territory was under Golden Horde.
Another study states: "...Russians share some alleles with Han Chinese, but this tendency is less pronounced in the Russians than in the Chuvash and Saami."

yes, Russians were under Mongolian rule for 240 years (1240-1480), but in most cases there were Russian rulers who obtained "temporary power permit" to collect taxes on behave of Mongols. Thus, genetic impact of the invasion could not be big.

Northern part of Russia wasn't conquered, and people of that ancestry are pretty much similar to Finns. The similar situation in the Western parts of historical Russia (now it's mostly Belarus and Ukraine), people there are similar to Balts and Poles.

Russians have some anthropological features similar to Mongols, but not many. Probably not only as a direct outcome of Mongol rule, but as a result of conversion of some Mongols and Turks into Orthodox Christianity and receiving a noble status from Russian rulers (czars): such status caused intermarriages between ethnic Mongol and Russian nobility, and also some off-springs among serfs (probably more numerous, than legal children).

I would guess that in average Russians have about 0.5-1.5% of their ancestry from Mongols. The German ancestry of an average Russian would be greater.

Answer 5

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Answer 6

According to nationwide tests being conducted in Russia, the genetic evidence suggests only a very tiny portion of Russians share some Mongol or other Asiatic genes.

So either the Mongols left the Russian women alone, or, when they did rape Russian women, it is likely that the women may have been killed afterward.

Answer 7

My dad's grandmother was a "white Russian." I think there is some difference, though I'm not claiming any expertise in this area.

Here's a link, though.

Answer 8

No. The Russian population was much larger at the time of the Mongol conquest, so thankfully not many people were influenced by it.

Answer 9

Not at all.

According to the recent project "Русский Генофонд" (Russian Genofond) by Prof. Balanovskaya, modern Russians DID NOT have common ancestors with modern Mongols.

http://genofond.ru