So Cons is Admiral Fallon CENTCOM's Commander a traitor for calling Petraeus an @ss-kissing little chickensh!t

Question

Admiral Fallon is the General's superior officer through CENTCOM!

http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=39235


Read it yourself.

nature lover: Actually this was on Hannity and Colmes on FOX last night!!
Try looking in a mirror before you attack others chicky!

so do you pick and choose which military personnel you support??

SHOCKING!

Again, I first heard about this on FOX Hannity and Colmes!!!!
The Republican spin station!!
HELLO!

whcwarrior_10: In the rank of superiority in the "War on Terror" Fallon outranks Petraeus!!
Look it up!

Answer 1

Sad how conservatives have been called on how no one should question Petraeus integrity.

Simple fact is Petraeus would have a vested interest in distorting the picture of how things are in Iraq. Keeps the war going, there's a nice job in the private sector of a war profiteer employer should Petraeus leave the military, chance for promotion if he stays in as a stooge. Questioning his integrity is fair game.

Answer 2

I like how they didn't quote any sources directly. Please - if that was really verifiable, don't you think the mainstream media would have jumped all over it? On the other hand, I can directly quote LCDR Scott Miller from CENTCOM Public Affairs who said that the Admiral and the General have a good relationship (see Blackfive). The fact that this story is only spreading through left wing blogs - HuffPo and Daily Kos and the like - shows that it's just junk.

However, even if the story were true, there's a difference between calling Petraeus a traitor and calling him an a$$ kissing chicken sh**, especially when one is coming from a left wing organization who disagrees with him politically and the other is from his superior who actually knows him.

And just for the record, though Admiral Fallon is the General's superior, Petraeus is the one with experience in Iraq and training in counterinsurgency. I'd take his word over Admiral Fallon's opinion any day.

Answer 3

i like how they did no longer quote any sources immediately. Please - if that became into extremely verifiable, do no longer you think of the mainstream media could have jumped throughout it? on the different hand, i will immediately quote LCDR Scott Miller from CENTCOM Public Affairs who suggested that the Admiral and the final have a sturdy dating (see Blackfive). the incontrovertible fact that this tale is only spreading by way of left wing blogs - HuffPo and every day Kos etc - exhibits that that's only junk. even nevertheless, whether the tale have been authentic, there's a distinction between calling Petraeus a traitor and calling him an a$$ kissing hen sh**, incredibly while one is coming from a left wing corporation who disagrees with him politically and the different is from his greater desirable who definitely knows him. And in basic terms for the checklist, nevertheless Admiral Fallon is the final's greater desirable, Petraeus is the single with adventure in Iraq and education in counterinsurgency. i could take his be conscious over Admiral Fallon's opinion any day.

Answer 4

in response to people questioning the validity of the quote itself, it is well-known that Admiral Fallon does not believe the surge has worked. I don't believe that it matters what words he specifically used. Admiral Fallon is Petraeus's commanding officer and has been there longer.

Meanwhile, Petraeus wrote an editorial back in 2004 or so about how Iraq was on the verge of stabilization. He's got a pretty poor record at predicting Iraq.

Also, several government reports have come out saying that the Iraqi government and sectarian violence outside of Baghdad have gotten worse during the surge. You send a lot of troops to Baghdad, it makes sense that Baghdad is a little more peaceful, I agree, but what about the country as a whole?

Even Petraeus admits the Iraqi government is failing.

Answer 5

I'm pretty much a conservative but bi-partisan on issues that I believe need a bi-partisan approach. Some of the conflict may be personal and I'm not interested in personal conflicts. However, we do need to more than one source of information from the military. I don't consider Admiral Fallon a traitor and agree with some things he said. For example: "Plans for continued high troop levels in Iraq would leave no troops available for other contingencies in the region." I also agree that the US should have higher levels of troop withdrawals than what Petraeus has proposed. The reason is that our troop levels keep increasing in spite of recent successes. Another concern I have is the effect of long combat duty on our troops with no relief in sight.

Answer 6

Well, just a few days before Gen. Petraeus was due to fly back to the US to appear before congress, Pres. Bush made an unannounced visit to Iraq (before flying to the APEC meeting in Australia). It was very likely that Bush made that trip to brief Petraeaus on what he is supposed to say in congress.

So it was not surprising that Petraeus statements to congress were all in line with the White House official point of view. So it is doubtful if Petraeus really made an honest and independent assessment instead of parroting whatever the White House wished to hear.

After all, Petraeus will surely be a goner (just like the generals that came and went before him), if he made any statement that would dispute the White House's own statements.

Answer 7

The NY Times did print a Full Page by MoveOn.org calling General Petraeus General Betray Us.
http://moveon.org/
It's politics as usual.
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Answer 8

My first tendancy would be to think that the quote was a fabrication. If it wasn't, then I would say that Admiral Fallon will occupy the same place in history as General Wesley Clark already occupies - that of a loser, disrespected by most Americans. Retired General Tommy Franks, the former CENTCOM Commander, has a very high opinion of General Petraeus, and Franks is another highly respected military man. So either way, Fallon appears to be the "little" man.

Answer 9

I don,t need to read it,,I understand the game,,,Admiral is higher than general.Petraeus changed,,,,in a very short time,,perhaps being correct these days,,is not the best...what I would say is a favorable report is mandatory from anyone going up to Bush...power on K-GIRL...shalom freepress

Answer 10

Your about 3 days late with this.....but an admiral is not superior to a 4 star general. they are equal in rank...i guess you'd know this had you ever served.