Yes, I believe it. Completely.
First of all, it's been kept and help for centuries as the burial cloth of Jesus. Long before anyone questioned such things, this shroud was carefully kept and guarded.
Additionally, it's been so studied now that we know a lot about it. It is not paint and could not be paint. It is an image created with an intense bright light. No one in the 13th century could have seen the image as we see it until photography allowed for the negative image...that's when you can really see it. The pollen on the shroud was found to be consistent with the area and time that Christ was crucified.
Not only the wounds are correct but the blood flow...very interesting. The blood flow on the shroud is consistent with a crucified man as well...I personally find that very interesting and convincing. I do not think someone playing a hoax would have been able to get so much right and have so much knowledge to be able to fake the smallest details.
Also, it's real blood and the blood type is AB. That is the same blood type that flows from the statues and pictures and it's the same blood type of the preserved Eucharist that turned to flesh. Also, very interesting.
Also, I read that the carbon dating was flawed. They took two samples from the same area on the shroud. Later it turns out that area had been patched at some point...so of course the carbon dating is going to show a different time.
The Shroud of Turin cannot be proved, just as the manger that is kept in Rome cannot be proved to be the manger Jesus. But again, it has been passed down and kept safe for centuries and known to be the manger. The same goes for the shroud...the faithful have always known it is the burial cloth of Christ.
http://www.shroudstory.com/
2007-09-16 08:57:04
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answered by Misty 7
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Its been proven that its not or could not be. The cloth that was purchased 2000 years ago by Joseph of Armeathea would have been sindon winding cloth..not a sheet of a different type of linen fabric. Jesus would have been wound up in it..not have the sheet laid over the top. The Sindon would have been in wides strips that could be tied at various places with thinner strips while tucking various fragrant herbs, spices and oils so that the body could be visited in mourning.
John 19:38-40
38And after this Joseph of Arimathaea, being a disciple of Jesus, but secretly for fear of the Jews, besought Pilate that he might take away the body of Jesus: and Pilate gave him leave. He came therefore, and took the body of Jesus.
39And there came also Nicodemus, which at the first came to Jesus by night, and brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about an hundred pound weight.
40Then took they the body of Jesus, and wound it in linen clothes with the spices, as the manner of the Jews is to bury.
Without Joseph and Nicodemus...The body couldn't have been ministered too on Sabbath. He would have been tossed in a common grave and burned. That Jesus kept the Sabbath even in death and that is why the women went early Sunday morning. By the way, just fer grins, Jesus wasn't crucified on a Friday. In order to fulfill His "sign" He would have had to lain in burial for 3 full days. Friday night to the morning of the first day of the week wouldn't have been 3 full days. So Jesus was crucifed before the High Sabbath of Passover on a Wednesday night...taken down from the cross late in the evening..enshrouded (wrapped) and laid to rest until the women could come after the Sabbath was over. It is believed that Jesus rose some time after Sabbath had ended Saturday night to early Sunday morning once the scriptures and cultural perameters are thoroughly searched. Love in Christ, ~J~
2007-09-15 08:02:54
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answered by Anonymous
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In 2005 Raymond Rogers, publishing in the peer-reviewed chemistry journal Thermochimica Acta, claimed that the radio-carbon samples had been cut from a repaired corner of the shroud, and that this invalidated the 1988 tests which had suggested it dated from the Middle Ages. Furthermore, he proposed that a new type of test - for the decay of vanillin - suggests that the shroud is up to 3000 years old. His findings are controversial, but it does seem to imply that we shouldn't be too certain one way or another. Belief is, of course, another matter entirely. I personally _like_ the idea of the possibility existing. although I don't have religious faith on the matter. If it is a fake, it's still extraordinary.
2007-09-16 03:15:46
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answered by lottie7 1
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the radioisotope dating of the shroud is a load of "****" All other evidence points that the Shroud is authentic, and may have been known as the image of Edessa prior to 1204.
dating with radioisotopes has a multitude of problems.
As far as that wild theory that da Vinci made the shroud, even the Carbon-14 dating of the shroud (which I don't trust the least) dates the shroud 13th century. da vinci wasn't born until 1452. get a grip people.
to Jana11's theory-
your study of Sindon in the New Testament is too limited. There were two types of cloth used in the burial according to the NT account...the one Joseph used which was a single sheet put on first then other wrappings in which spice were put in.
Let me add a few passages and you'll see that in NT itself is open to the possibility that Sindon can be a single piece of linen cloth...
Mark 14:51-52 51 A young man was following Him, wearing nothing but a linen sheet (sindon) over his naked body; and they seized him. 52 But he (1)pulled free of the linen sheet and escaped naked.
Furthermore, the NT distinguished the linen Joseph bought from the burial clothes you describe by using another word completely for those brurial clothes. the disciples used - othonion..
Luke 24:12-13 But Peter got up and (a)ran to the tomb; stooping and looking in, he saw the linen wrappings (othonion) (1)only; and he went away (b)to his home, marveling at what had happened. 13 And behold, (a)two of them were going that very day to a village named Emmaus, which was (1)about seven miles from Jerusalem.
I'm not going to get into a fight here on the day Jesus died, but I believe this is accurate--
Mark 15:42 42 (a)When evening had already come, because it was (b)the preparation day, that is, the day before the Sabbath, Mark 15:43 43 Joseph of Arimathea came, a (a)prominent member of the Council, who himself was (b)waiting for the kingdom of God; and he (c)gathered up courage and went in before Pilate, and asked for the body of Jesus.
Jesus died IN DARKNESS on the ninth hour of preparation day, before the sabbath. darkness remained on the land from the 6th hour until just after his death at the ninth hour...then it cleared up. In other words, it was "night" . Then it cleared and was Friday again, the day before preparation. Then it became the (Shabbat eve) night prior to the day of Shabbat. Then it became the night prior to the day of Sunday. Then Sunday morning/day...and Jesus rose...
2007-09-15 07:26:43
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answered by midnite n 1
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I would like to believe it, but -- my mind doesnt accept it. It doesnt matter if it is or isnt, Christ was a great teacher and a wonderful humanitarian and I think all the fanatical Christians in the world today NEED very much to go back and study his lessons again.
IMO very few of them do walk in the way of JC, most have all turned their back on the things He taught us, and filled their lives and hearts with judgements and hate.
The exact opposite of what He taught. Did Christ die in vain after all? Have most of the Christians today forsaken Him?
Think about it. Its a sad world.
2007-09-15 07:56:55
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answered by isotope2007 6
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From my research, I believe that it is actually Leonardo da Vinci. The image is a photographic negative. Leonardo had the technology and he was a known practical joker. I think he wanted to put one by the Catholic church.
If you check carbon dating and testing done on the shroud, you'll find that it dates to about Leonardo's time, but no way could it date back to Christ.
2007-09-15 07:13:57
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answered by Cat 6
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I have been reading on this for years. I have a video on it, that makes a very good case on it. There is also another cloth that was from the head. I believe it is in Spain. I believe it is real.
2007-09-15 09:50:02
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answered by RB 7
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It was a nice belief while it lasted.
By the way, why do some people get so upset about where a question SHOULD go? Sometimes people want an opinion from a different group of people.
2007-09-15 07:53:20
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answered by Wickwire 5
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Carbon dating says that: It is not.
It is believed to have been created somewhere in the late 15th century, possibly by one of the Renaissance Artists.
2007-09-15 07:17:34
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answered by ♫ Bubastes, Cat Goddess♥ 7
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Anything is possible, Now we wait for it to be proven but then how does one prove that and the facts are already engraved in many people? Ponder?
2007-09-15 07:16:23
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answered by Gypsy Gal 6
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