Does the left actually believe what they say?

Question

The left often asks why we still bring up Clinton.

Because there are so many hypocrisies on display.

They compare how Bush is treated to how Clinton was treated. Amazing considering I do not recall the right claiming Clinton was a terrorist. Or daily saying he was incompetent, even though he clearly was.

Clinton sent our military into several actions. Notably silent was the anti-war left, which is why the anti-war left has no credibility with the American public.

I can not wait for the 08 elections. The left relies on biased sources for polling data which gives them a false representation of reality. They are so happy they actually think they won Congress In fact a few scumbag republicans lost it. Even if they won, they have done nothing they promised, and their idea of cleaning up politics is to attempt to appoint those in the most high profile scandals today to key roles.

WOW.

I think the left would be best served by realizing there exists a line across which politics should ne

Answer 1

Every bit as much as the right, That is what is called freedom of speech, and diverse ideas.

Answer 2

I believe and stand by everything I say. Maybe you've missed the fact that the right regularly blames Clinton for 9/11, thus making him, if not a terrorist, an incompetent terrorist sympathizer.

Yes, Clinton sent the military into several actions. Most were disasters, but none on such a grand financial scale with as great a loss of human life as Iraq.

Clinton was an fairly incompetent President. As is Bush. And most of the current crop of candidates fighting for the White House aren't much better.

The Democrats in Congress (most of whom are NOT liberal but, in fact, neo-socialist) are spineless and afraid to stand up for what they believe in (or what the polls say will get them votes).

Hypocrisy is rampant on both sides of the aisle. Don't kid yourself thinking that the "moral majority" the right claims to be actually cares about morality. They play it lip-service to garner votes, like the "left" did with stopping the war.

I realize there exists a line across which politics should ne. Do you?

Answer 3

Unlike the "right," the "left" deals in FACTS. Very close to 100% of the time. Why should we lie, when the "right" is so good at it, and is in a constant process of self-destruction?

Take this comment you (presumably on the "right") made in the details following your question. YOU said ---

"They compare how Bush is treated to how Clinton was treated. Amazing considering I do not recall the right claiming Clinton was a terrorist. Or daily saying he was incompetent, even though he clearly was."

We on what you call "the left" call Bush a terrorist simply because he's the worst mass-murderer of innocent people that the world has seen since Pol Pot. (But we really don't think of him as a "terrorist." We regard him as what he truly IS -- a war criminal. Clinton never did ANY such things.)

Then YOU said ---

"Clinton sent our military into several actions. Notably silent was the anti-war left, which is why the anti-war left has no credibility with the American public."

Clinton's military actions were minimal, measured, and prudent, to deal with actual and legitimately-pursued matters, with a quick exit strategy. BUSH, on the other hand, LIED to con the world and Congress into going along with his mindless and murderous invasion of Iraq. And Congress, while going along with him, didn't even have the guts to execute a formal Declaration of War -- which would have made this war legitimate. Bush is a murderous warmonger who is pursuing an ILLEGAL quagmire of a "war," with not even the remotest hint of an exit strategy.

Bush deserves the world's condemnation -- and so do WE -- for not demanding the impeachment of him and Cheney, and sending them off to Nuremburg (or any other fitting locale) to stand trial as the war criminals that they both are.

Answer 4

I believe in information and free speech. I believe in looking at several different sources of information before passing judgement. Here's a good place to start.

http://www.regressiveantidote.net/Articles/What_Every_American_Should_Know_About_Iraq.html

The above are facts. They portray a POSSIBLE mind set of our President in the days preceding Iraq. Why would I discount this information? Why would anyone? Information is the lifeblood of democracy. But...it seems that most Americans tune into ONE channel for all thier news. If you are such a person, then it is only natural that you have such strong loyalty to your party. Any citizen that reads from multiple sources of media will find that they are ALL skewed. Everyone has an agenda. If your agenda is a perfect match with Bush's, so be it. But mine isn't. That's freedom. It's my right. I don't have to justify it. I don't have to engage in name calling. I think about all the angles, and I am enlightened enough to know that the American public rarely gets the full story on ANY issue.

Answer 5

First of all, there is no line across which politics should ne!!!

Second, you idiots sent your pitbull after Clinton the day after the election and got nada but a tryst between consenting adults. That was all that the Special Prosecutor in charge of investigating Whitewater came up with.

Third, we are not anti-war. We are anti- THIS WAR. Clinton sent troops into Kosovo to stop atrocities (like the ones currently occuring in Darfur) and into Somalia to get people fed. He ordered a missile strike into Iraq, mostly because missiles don't come home in caskets. He realized the fragile balance between Iraq and Iran and the danger in following a fool's crusade for the sheer purpose of calling one's self the Great War Chief.

We have been in Iraq longer than we were in WWII, with every reason for going in since proved false, or worse, contrived.

I miss knowing that the leader of our nation was respected, was well spoken and well informed, was rational and above all the smartest man in the room. That was Clinton.

Bush calls APEC "OPEC," cries for stem cells when thousands of Americans are dead because he couldn't keep his shiny military toy in its box, and refuses to believe reality when it presents itself directly in front of him.

If you think there is a Republican that can win after that mess of a man, I pity you. "More of the Same" will be destroyed next year. Hopefully, a more lucid, intelligent form of the party will rise from its ashes.

Answer 6

I believe you are talking about Democrats, not the left. Both political sides are corrupt. The true left believes in equality for all people (as our Forefathers did) Clinton was impeached for a BJ. Bush started another war in Iraq ....another Vietnam, based on false pretenses. He should have been impeached & never re-elected. Please stop looking at Fox news, listening to Rush (a drug addict who should be in jail) and open your mind to BOTH sides of the issues & use your brain instead of spouting retoric.

Answer 7

It's amazing to me how Bush has been demonized by the left, yet even the most avid opposers to President Clinton never called him HALF the things that Bush has had to endure. As much as I was opposed to Clinton, I always had respect for him because of the office he held. Something the left cares nothing about because to them, patriotism means disgracing your own country and being ashamed of being American.

As far as more liberal hypocracy...........Clinton sent US forces without proper equipemt to Somalia in 1993-94, sent troops to Rwanda in July 1994, invaded Haiti in September 1994, invaded Bosnia in December 1995 (still have troops there by the way) sent warships to maneuver off the coast of China in 1996, and he even fired cruise missiles at suspected chemical weapons sites in Iraq in December 1998! So where was the anti-war left when Clinton sent troops to over half a dozen foreign countries while blatently ignoring international terrorism?

Answer 8

Whatever you say. Most of the "facts" you wrote are just GOP spin but I do agree with you on one issue.

I can't wait for the '08 elections either. When they are over, I think you will have wished to wait a little longer.

Answer 9

Sure they do.
You forgot to include the fact that so called incompetent Clinton, was willing to, and did work with the Republican controlled Congress to get things done.
It is not Clinton's fault that President Bush and company think it is better to do nothing than to compromise.

Answer 10

left wing politicians don't. everything they say is merely a political calculation. it's a neverending effort to dupe people into believing things that aren't true, and to keep it that way. they know what they're saying is mostly bullcrap, but priority #1 is to retain what power and influence they have, and increase it over time.

Answer 11

Liberals cannot help it if Bush let the right down, on so many levels. They did try to warn you, but in your evil pride, you wouldn't listen to a word of it, it appears that you are still very prideful. That's a sin you know...