Is our military too lazy and stupid to do well in school so they got 'stuck in Iraq'?

Question

The 'botched joke' of John Kerry is about to rear it's ugly head again in a MoveOn.org ad referring to our military as being 'stuck in Iraq'.

Isn't this a big mistake for MoveOn to resurrect Kerry's comment and reaffirm our suspicions that this is truly how the Democrats feel about our brave soldiers?

Dylan, first off I applaud your service to the country.

You are a rarity, though. A Military Times poll shopws that only 14% of our military consider themselves to be Democrats.

You are truly one of the few, the proud, the Democrats who actually have a spine and a sense of duty.

Answer 1

Good twist to bait the left.
They hate America and moveon..org is a Communist Clinton group. Lets not forget why they were formed to moveon and not impeach Clinton. They are a George Soros group that is all about bringing down the USA. The left has to repay the moveoner's so the call then every day to get their marching orders and talking points.

The Democrats where at one time a good party but no longer.

They are traitors and need to stand trial for treason and be sent to a 3 rd world country to find out what torture really is.

God bless our men and women and the suits in DC stay out of their way and let them win.
The left owns defeat.

Answer 2

People join the military for various reasons, why they join is their business. Each branch has its own standards - the Marines and Army have the lowest scholastics standards. The Air Force has the highest. There are many high tech jobs in the service, not everyone tots a machine gun.

People like Pat Tilman joinned the military for patriotic reasons. He had a multi million dollar professional football contract. He joined because he wanted to serve his nation believing that we were under threat after 9/11. When he went to Iraq he soon found out that going to war with Iraq was based on a lie. The government was more concerned with patrolling the oil wells and building permanent bases than "freeing" the Iraqi people. He made his dissatisfaction known and was shot in close range by his fellow Army Rangers. This was covered up, however his family and others believed he was intentionally murdered because he was about to go public.

Today many foreign nationals are serving in the armed forces. In 2003 over 31,000. I have heard that this number is well over 100,000 today. President Bush used his executive privileges to grant citizenship to some foreign nations serving but many die without becoming citizens.

Investigative journalist Jeremy Scahill wrote a book called "Blackwater: The Rise of the World's Most Powerful Mercenary Army." "Blackwater is the elite Praetorian Guard for the 'global war on terror,' with its own military base, a fleet of twenty aircraft, and 20,000 private contractors. They are in Iraq and get away with much. They were in New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina during a time when citizens were forced to turn in their guns .

The military recruiters are not meeting their quotas, so of course the standards have lowered tremendously. Many think there will be a draft in the future, if we continue our imperialism overseas fighting who we want to fight, there will not be enough troops available to defend this nation against legitimate attacks.

We hear a lot of talk about immigration issues, rightfully so, however, many Americans do not realize that there are many Mexicans and other foreign nationals fighting in today's U.S military

Answer 3

I don't think "stuck" is a good word. "deployed" worked fine for me. I served in the Marine Corps (99-05) and as a forward observer and provisional infantry in Iraq.

I don't know why people would blame Bush, he got voted in by the majority, including me. Nobdy got threatened to serve in the military, it's all volunteer. SOME people in the military are stupid enough to think that they can join for college, ect. and then when a war comes down the pike they can get out without having to fight. They are the crybabies who complain and do stupid crap trying to get kicked out, but wind up going to Levenworth and making the rest of the military look bad. But guarantee every job in the world has some idiots who cause the other 90% of the workers to look bad at some point or another.

I have newspaper clippings from when I was there and we cordoned off Fallujah and blew it to pieces. There were no clippings about how we took truck loads of food, water, clothes, ect. to the poor villages and how the Shieks of those villages shook hands and thanked individually every Marine and Corpsman for coming to help them, and offfered us hospitality for freeing their country.

As far as not invading a nation that didn't attack us, no Iraq didn't attack us and neither did Afghanistan. Al-Queda attacked us, and they aren't a nation. But we know where they live. People like Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden make countries that support groups of terrorists, and they need to be dealt with accordingly.

Yes it would be nice if the fighting was over and everbody could come home, but it's not over and if we quit fighting them, they will just follow us home. All of the liberals then will cry and say "what will we do? Where are the Marines?" And we will fiight here at home while everybod wishes that the war was going on somewhere else.

Answer 4

I'm an Independent and I was offended by the Petraeus/Betray Us thing. And I'm anti-war.

A lot of our military was too poor to go to college so they joined up before Iraq started, in hopes of getting scholarship money from the military.

Our military got "stuck in Iraq" because our Congress is too stupid to read earmarks on bills before passing them, much less asking questions to the executive branch when they pose an idea of going to war.

We need term limits in Congress so we can stop having a bunch of yes-men for the President, who don't give a flying fig what the American public thinks.

Though yes it is a mistake to resurrect Kerry's comment. And no it doesn't describe how Dems OR Indies feel about the soldiers. Many of us just feel we shouldn't have gone to war in the first place, and our soldiers have been out on duty long enough. They deserve to see their families.

I thought Republicans and conservatives were all about "family values"?

Answer 5

Actually Moveon.org might become the Republicans best friend if they keep on putting out these stupid ads. The American people are not going to stand for it. I'm a U.S. Army Veteran and the claims that our military is too lazy and stupid is just not true. Most in the military signed up to defend our country. We'll just keep letting Moveon.org do their thing and in '08 we'll elect another Republican President.

VOTE REPUBLICAN IN '08.

Answer 6

It's how many of them feel. Truthfully, how long do you think its going to take before the moveonbots start calling our troops babykillers and spitting on them?

I know that a lot of folks don't believed that happend during Vietnam, but it did, and I saw it. I will tell you right now that it will never be tolerated again. Anyone who spits on a military member in my presence is going to learn a whole new dance step.

Answer 7

ALMOST NO ONE in the Military says they're Democrat; They become Dems after they get out (I was a Rep in the Army, a registered Rep right now but I will be voting and supporting the Dems this next election. I truly believe Bush stole the 2000 election (even I voted for him) and I truly believe he had an agenda to invade Iraq even before he became President. He ran an extremely dirty campaign both elections, and has done nothing to promote either peace, democracy or goodwill in the world.

He led us, through lies and manipulated intelligence, to do something Ronald Reagan promised the world we would never do: Invade a Sovereign Nation Which Had Not Attacked Us First.

I agreed with Reagan's promise, just as I condemn Bush for breaking it. As a Republican, I voted my mindset and my conscience in elections, only to have the unipartisan attitude of the Republican WH, the Republican majority Congress and the Republican majority Supreme Court, spend 6 years (from 2001- on) and Trillions of US Dollars NOT securing the borders, NOT fixing Social Security, NOT Balancing the Federal Budget, NOT keeping their weiners in their pants on a scale Clinton could only fantasize about (were he a creep pedophile- I wonder if that's what Republicans who hate Clinton are so upset about, that he had sex with an ADULT woman), all the while screaming about Patriotism and "Family Values" (great phrase, but when do I get a definition?) and other nonsense which has absolutely no actual syntax but sounds so good coming out of Rush Limbaugh's mouth every morning.

Answer 8

Kerry was talking about the intellectual laziness of the chump that currently serves in the white house, not the people wearing a uniform.
He's the one who got America stuck in Iraq, not those poor bastards who have to go back for their third forth and fifth rotations into that sh!tstorm.

Answer 9

Of course not. MoveOn.Org will continue to run negative ads for the Democratic Party, they own them. As disgusting as the ads are, they will backfire, they are uniting the Right and crippling the left. Thanks

Answer 10

moveOn is a big mistake, they better move on. Look at all the Phd's we have; "The Brainiac Brigade" (and they don't pretend to know every thing)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20657191/site/newsweek/