do you think this is worse than a 2 year ban? i think this huge fine has just wiped McLaren off the racing map. i hope Ron appeals this. with no constructors points McLaren will lose all the benefits that come with them too.
2007-09-13 06:38:25 · 26 answers · asked by val f1 nutter 7 in Sports ➔ Auto Racing ➔ Formula One
Oh,Dont worry Val.It really isnt that much for a team like McLaren.They'll come through soon enough.
See the bright side,they're still racing and I'm pretty sure F1 will be back the same way it was earlier from next year onwards(I hope desperately!).Anyway,The drivers championship is still on and your hero,Lewis has every chance of winning it.So,please cheer up.
Hope we have a nice race tomorrow.
2007-09-13 21:51:46 · answer #1 · answered by Schumi 5 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Well I think its excessive, and yes McLaren does have a lot of financial backing from Santander, and other sponsors, and no this will not cost them too much compared to other teams, but that doesnt mean the fine was justified. I am waiting for FIA reasoning but i dont think it will be justified, and for those who say this is a way of the FIA to set and example so that others dont do the same that is BS! come on who honestly believes that this is the first time such transfer of info happens. The mechanical engineers and other staff with a lot of intel are always changing teams and they take their knowledge with them. They might not be as dumb as to take a 768 page booklet, leave a paper trail (they copy guy caught them, lol) and send emails and give it to the other team but they do share their previous intel w the new team. hence the similar look of vehicle and technology use. This has happened and in some cases benefits F1 by allowing technology to be used and all cars, they shouldnt be spying on each other but the info has transfered before, and McLaren shouldnt of been charge 100 million and taken out of the constructors championship which is costing them like 50 to 70 million more. If the FIA really thought that McLaren cheated and had a advantage then why would they let the drivers run in the same cars, the cars are what the technology would of been used in and if the ruling was justified than that would be unfair to let them still race. This is more of a way of the FIA president to stick it to Ron Dennis and help Ferrari a little, and to add drama and attention to F1.
2016-05-18 21:29:24 · answer #2 · answered by ? 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Hi Val. McLaren will come through this sham created by Ferrari,Ron will be more determined now to prove that McLaren are better on and off the track.biggest problem for him will be Alonso and how he is going to react.Will he give 100% effort now or will he want to move to another team? We will find out on Saturday! I hope Ron does appeal against this ridiculous fine and wins the appeal.however a fine is better than a 1 or 2 year ban, the sponsors of McLaren are not stupid I think they will stand by him ,after all everyone knows now that there is only ONE great and honest team in F1 and that is McLaren, and you can put your last dollar on Lewis Hamilton to give 150% in every race now All that this case has done is tarred the good name of F1 motor racing and not McLaren
2007-09-13 11:36:38 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 2⤋
I don't think this is worse than exclusion for 2 years. But It's still too much. What did McLaren do to deserve this? They beat Ferrari with their own documents. Is it really worse than keeping your own driver from taking over the other? I mean where was Mr. Ecclestone while Barrichello was kept blocking from taking over Schumacher by Ferrari team during all races.
Now Fia just found a way to make Ferrari champion and did it. I don't think races are on circuits anymore. There is a big unfair race behind F1.
Can Mclaren improve their cars enough for next season while they have to pay 100 million dollar to Fia? I hope so but I don't know next season will be just difficult for McLaren and boring for fans!
2007-09-13 07:01:45 · answer #4 · answered by ϯ Rebel ϯ 3 · 2⤊ 1⤋
For a team like mclaren, the fine given to them is not enough to really make much of a difference. I like the team but i think they should have been fined a lot more. These guys have money coming out of their asses, it really won't affect them in the long run. As for the constructors points, the FIA should have taken points from both teams just for all the trouble and scandal they have brought on the sport for the last few months. I think that would have been a fair result.
2007-09-13 21:08:13 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
I find it interesting the FIA only fines the leading race teams. When Toyota employees were convicted of stealing of stealing Ferrari's aerodynamic information to use in designing its first race car, the FIA did not slap them with a 100 million dollar fine. And we all know Toyota has a bigger budget than both Ferrari and McLaren. I have no problem with the McLaren's fine, but to not punish Toyota at all for the same offense is not consistant. There must be consistant punishment no matter if you are first or last, have a big budget or a small one.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/motorsport/toyota-trio-charged-with-ferrari-theft/2006/01/17/1137466990224.html
2007-09-13 07:18:00 · answer #6 · answered by Rockford 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I think it's good to see a sporting fine that bears some relation to the financial situation...so used to seeing footballers being fined £5000 or some other equally pointless amount, or F1 drivers being fined about £20000 for that matter.
At the same time, I think they set the fine so high in case McLaren appeal; even if it gets heavily reduced, it will still be significant. The question now is whether McLaren will risk an appeal, knowing that if it fails there is precedent for the punishment actually being increased?
2007-09-13 07:17:45 · answer #7 · answered by rosbif 7 · 3⤊ 1⤋
I'll start by saying that I'm no fan of Ron Dennis but...
It strikes me that there is a vendetta here and that at last Max Moseley has been able to settle his score with Dennis.
The whole result is totally illogical. If we accept (although the full story isn't out) that McLaren gained an advantage why are the drivers not penalised?
I've just been listening to opinions on Sky and the concensus is that Lewis Hamilton is too marketable a property in the future planning of F1 as it goes global.
Sorry to ramble but to me it just shows up the FIA, Moseley, Ecclestone etc to be totally morally corrupt.
Oh. The question. I think they will survive if sponsors and Mercedes stick by them but I don't think Ron Dennis will stay much longer.
2007-09-13 07:28:58 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
That is a heck of a lot of money, $100,000,000.
This is F1 and these kind of figures are bandied about over 20 minute coffee breaks, it is a tiny amount in this business of billionaires.
I do, however, think it is contradictory; if a car is proved to be 'questionable' b y the governing body, how can it be possible or ethical for Hamilton and Alonso to win championships in what are effectively Ferrari/McLaren Mercedes?
Whats the story with Alonso not being there? I heard a story that He is off at the end of the season (to BMW) and Button will be replacing him. . hm, told you it was a story.
I'm sure Schumi is smirking!
2007-09-13 07:07:59 · answer #9 · answered by RedSnook 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
I'm sure they'll bounce back. After all, the FIA wants to cut costs. (bad time for a joke?)
Seriously though, as someone said, it might stunt their development and testing program a little but I should think they will be able to keep going, definately a top 3 team still.
We've seen Mclaren away from the top before (remember the mid 90s?) and they bounced back.
They're a team who know the score and will find a way through.
2007-09-13 06:59:30 · answer #10 · answered by q 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋