Feminists with sons: Do you want your boys to have men's rights and not discriminated against by feminists?

Question

Feminists with sons: Do you want your boys to have men's rights and not be discriminated against by feminism? How do you feel about the fact that feminism has caused society to focus on breast cancer awareness, but ignore prostate cancer? How do you feel about education being given more attention to girls, while boys are ignored in comparison? How do you feel about the fact that if your son becomes a loving caring father and husband, yet divorced an immoral and abusive woman, the courts will side with her and won't let him see his own children and he'll lose much of what he's worked hard for to her? How do you feel about how it's now politically incorrect just be a man? Should your son be referred to as a "potential rapist" as feminists like Andrea Dworkin has alleged? Do you want the best for your sons?

Also, feminists without sons -- if you did have a son would you want him to have rights?

Carrie: You didn't answer the question. Merely stating what you want them to be is a cliche line that all parents say. What you failed to address are your thoughts on the increasing acceptance of anti-male bias and misandry in society, and your thoughts on the fact that your sons will eventually have to be subjected to such discrimination.

Carrie: You dodged the question. The reason is because you also accept the anti-male bias in our society.

And Carrie, read what Amleth said.

Patois: The field of law is not exactly my interest or forte, so thanks for the offer, but no thanks.

Also, no one single person has a mandate on law-making, so he doesn't pass legislation just because of his "beliefs". Sorry, but the system doesn't work like that.

Also Patois: My mother AND FATHER taught me many "jewels of wisdom". I'm a year away from my Bachelors, and already own two pieces of real estate, and earn $13,000 a year from property income. If you think a person is successful only because they have political "power", then you truly are a misguided, covetous individual. LOL.

Correction: Obviously it should say $13,000 "a month", not a year. LOL. Minimum wage pays more than that.

Patois: You have any evidence that most "real estate" in the US is owned by women? Because I doubt that's true. I own two triple-net properties and am working on a third, and only 25. Also, who said it had anything about owning property as to relating to "masculinity"? I relate it to "success". What is with your affinity with associating everything with masculinity?

Judging by your lies you just told, I'm going to take an educated guess and say that you're also lying that your son is a world-reknowned lawmaking politician. LOL!

Answer 1

I just saw your question LS and have to say a big yes for my boys to have a good, successful life free from discrimination.
Will fight tooth and nail to protect my sons from harm of any kind.

Answer 2

I like rainbow's answer . I think unfortunately some very intelligent people can have some insanely stupid perspectives. This is not all feminist by a long shot , just the most vocal and perhaps most influential of the feminist . These are the people that use feminism as a weapon to bash males .

My only wish is that these women can use there new found perspective to influence the more radical feminist that the other side has genuine concerns .

Answer 3

There's an old joke about fearing something that bleeds for a week every month and doesn't die. Patriarchy is one response to women's sexuality and generative power. Before people understood that it takes two to make a baby, men feared women's ability to bring forth life. They tried through keeping women ignorant, and powerless, like mostly unwanted property. Women were only vessels for the homunculus. Some religious and cultural beliefs and practices supported this. Democracy -- true democracy with universal suffrage -- and education for women everywhere can change this. Giving women property rights, choice of what to do with their bodies, and an opportunity to make a good living will lead to them seeking political power as well, and when that happens, we will have true equality.

Answer 4

I don't have any sons but my sister has three of them so I have a pretty good idea about raising them. What I can tell you is that she did not raise them with the attitude of "boys will be boys" and let them get away with various misdeeds simply because they were boys. She never would have tolerated them harrassing girls and making lewd and sexist comments about them. I know exactly what it feels like to be on the receiving end of those comments because I went to high school with boys who were like that and so did she. She also did not push them into sports or other types of "appropriate activities" for boys. Two of them did play sports but it was their choice, not their parents'. She encouraged them to do well in school and one of them recently graduated from college and is now going for a doctorate. This particular son did not like sports but preferred art, literature, and classical music. How many other parents out there would have even tolerated having a son like that? They likely would have thought he was gay or a sissy and made him play sports in an effort to toughen him up. This young man, by the way, is not gay. He's had a girlfriend for the past several years.

Answer 5

First off you have many questions within this posting. To answer your first question men are not discriminated against by feminism. Feminism is a movement to bring about social and political equality on par with men. On the contrary, we live in a society where males have power. What I mean by power is that collectively males are the ones who are in the highest seats of power from government to the workforce so, no, as a male my son would not be discriminated against.

In terms of the feminism being the cause of breast cancer awareness while at the same time ignoring prostate cancer in society I would definitely dispute that. I think that in terms of medicine there tend to be more gains with treatment of illnesses in men than with women (just my opinion). Breast cancer receives so much attention because of advocacy from many different people and not just feminists and also because if affects so many women.

Educationally, girls are not given more attention than boys, just the opposite. The difference is that now we as a society have become concerned with the differences between girls and boys in the classroom and are talking about it. Part of that is that in the past there has been high rates of teen pregnancy and the idea that girls aren't as smart as boys. Again through advocacy, there have been advertisement campaigns dedicated to encourage girls to be involved with after school activities as that will reduce their dropout rate. That is not to say that boys do not drop out of school but of those the percentage is lower.

In terms couples divorcing custody and visitation are considered to seperate things. Also, one has to take into account whether the couple was legally married or just lived together. In certain states if you were legally married then the parents have joint custody (50/50) and with that visitation. However, if you were not married, the custody is usually given to the mother and the father has visitation rights. The men need to petition the courts to have visitation rights if they cannot come to an agreement. This is also slowly changing, increasingly you see men who are the primary caretakers of their children.

It is not politically incorrect just to be a man. I think that many men are feeling encroached upon with certain criteria that has been used to "level the playing field" as it were. Historically and currently men are usually given preference over women in the job market. When you look at high level positions such as a VP or CEO there are not as many women in comparision with men. That is not to say that there have not been substantial gains either. In think that the perception is that all these women are overrunning everything but that is not the case. When women do acheive a certain level it may be more publicized or noticed because it is not the norm.

Lastly, as a parent you want the best for your children whether they are male or female. I think you need to take the time and analyze some of the issues you have brought up here and reasearch them for your own benefit.

Answer 6

Carrie should learn from Raimbow's friend.
To be mother (or father) is agreat responsability to keep alert and learning,for someone else's sake(then after,maybe the own's).
If you going to put that Pressure on your Child to turn him a "winner" you already become a "loser".Learn to accept a new Being first,then a new Person however they wish to be.
Do not manipulate,boys or girls.

Answer 7

i am sure feminists are like most parents -- they would rather eat their children than have them take power from them. its the story of saturn played out over and over again. do you really expect an answer from them?

i think hate mongers have hidden behind the label feminist far too long. lets try to restore the concept of feminism as a constructive movement and also stop giving credence to hate mongers on both sides. if we stopped giving sexist males a voice the hate mongering females would wither and die because they would have nothing left to fight which is really their sole purpose.

until we are all ready to move forward constructively nothing is going to get accomplished.

the only thing i can answer your question with is knowing the rules of womens only spaces -- women with male children are usually banished from the tribe when a male child reaches a given age. so the boy is a victim of sexism and ageism at a very early age. sad but true. victims can become abusers.

Answer 8

I know a woman, whom most men would refer to as a ball buster, who’s only child is a son. She learned a lot about men by having a son, and realized then men have feelings too, even if they don’t show it the same way that women do.

I think it was just desserts that she have a son. She’s not so hard on men now.

Answer 9

The fiction called feminism is a 1970s fad that died with Disco. Sure, some people still listen to the BeeGees, but no one outside their clique takes them seriously. Besides, what do you care how others raise their children? Raise your own offspring to maximize their self-actualization, and let fadists blather.

Answer 10

My sons are going to be intelligent, university-educated, popular, and comfortable in their masculinity and sexuality, so they won't turn into paranoid misogynists.

No worries here!

Edit: Read again, honey. I did answer your question.

Edit II: Riiiight. First of all, I'm not a ball buster. The men on this forum may think so, but that's only because you're a bunch of whiny-@ss pansies. Secondly, if I had a gay son I'd be totally cool with that, so I fail to see how that's an insult. Thirdly, being gay isn't some sort of learned behaviour because of the way mommy treated you - please.