Is he gettin anything ($$$$, Bertuzzi or not)? And if not, does the NHL compensate him or (disgusted) jus sweep it under the mat because he was not an elite player?
2007-09-12
14:02:04
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Bob, good points, I never knew he only played 69 games, so it wouldnt make sense that the NHL wouldnt compensate him, especially after what you said in the previous question.
As for Bertuzzi, I never had much of a problem with that either and I jus wanted to know if he sued/settled, etc.
2007-09-12
15:06:26 ·
update #1
That should be it wouldnt make sense for the NHL compensate him.
2007-09-12
16:04:26 ·
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Steve Moore will receive nothing from the NHL. In order to qualify for the lump sum payment, you need to play 400 games (250 as a goalie). Moore played 69.
One of the big things in the Moore issue is that Colorado basically washed their hands of him after it happened. Sure, they said all the right things publicly....but behind the scenes, nothing happened.
Because Colorado did this, he isn't entitled to any 'injury' pay such as what Owen Nolan was trying to extort out of the Leafs.
As the previous poster stated, there are 'substantiated' rumours that any damage caused by Bertuzzi was "neither life threatening nor substantial enough to cause permanent disability"
This is a guy who walked to his hearings under his own power, albeit with a neck brace (and we all know that whiplash is a difficult injury to 'quantify')
I made my points on this affair well-known a few weeks ago, and they haven't changed.
Personally, I didn't think Steve Moore was an NHLer
As stated before, several GMs have spoken in Bertuzzi's defense that had Bertuzzi not touched Moore, Moore was still in danger of not having an NHL contract (i.e. Colorado had told him he wasn't be re-signed prior to this incident, and nobody else was climbing the walls to get his John Hancock on a piece of paper)
My personal opinion is that Moore probably has soreness, soreness that probably prevents him from playing at the level he once did. But, there is evidence that his career wasn;t going to be that much longer anyway, and Todd Bertuzzi shouldn't be forced to compensate somebody (see my previous answer)
2007-09-12 16:22:26
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answered by Like I'm Telling You Who I A 7
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OK, I'm going to get eaten alive for this one. I've heard rumours of a doctor's report that said after Steve Moore was hospitalized and diagnosed, he was okay enough to walk out of the hospital that very night of the Bertuzzi incident. Apparently, ALL Steve Moore had was a concussion and a whiplash injury. There was absolutely NO spinal cord or backbone damage found. Again, this is just a rumour I heard about a year after the incident. I didn't initially believe it.
A few months ago, I heard a radio program talking about it. The rumour had just been publicised one way or another. I think it was a newspaper that first published the story. It went into deeper details about how Steve Moore was trying to milk this situation for all it was worth, knowing his career in hockey would never be able to make that much money. The startling part of the story was how all of Moore's teammates and Colorado management were all unwilling to comment on his status. Some players, wishing to remain unidentified, claimed they hadn't seen or had any contact with Moore for years. The report claimed that the Colorado organization had completely removed itself from Moore and did not want any association with him, other than he was a former player for them. Strange way to treat a former teammate who has unjustly suffered so much? Not if you know he's not really hurt.
I still want to give Moore the benefit of the doubt, because it was such a horrific incident and Bertuzzi made the biggest mistake of his life. All Moore has to do is show the doctor's report to the press and all the allegations will go away. But, seeing how no one has come forward to deny it, and the way the Colorado Avalanche have separated themselves from Steve Moore in such a hurry, and 2 different courts (one in Denver, one in Vancouver) haven't been able to reach a decision, I have to believe that there's something very fishy going on. Bob, I agree, dumb move by Bertuzzi, but there is a hell of a lot more to it than that.
2007-09-12 16:01:19
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answered by formerlysuspendedguy 4
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Since he only has 69 career games, I don't think he would qualify for anything from the NHL which I have no problem with. Most (alot of) companies require that you work full time for 2 years in order to qualify for benefits.
As for the Bertuzzi, Canuck, Burke, etc lawsuit, I believe it is still on going. The last I had heard was that the defendants wanted a change of venue.
IMO, players run a risk every time they step on the ice and they are hansomely rewarded for that risk. I also believe, the justice system, whether it be criminal or civil courts, should have no place in the game, except in the most extraordinary cases (the Pistons brawl) but I don't even think this should have qualified. It opens a terrible can of worms and I honestly think Steve Moore should be ashamed of himself.
I have seen worse acts (just last year) where the players did not get injured so it went pretty much unnoticed. The NHL should police itself.
I also have a hard time feeling sorry for a guy who made hundreds of thousands of dollars playing a game. Yeah, he got jumped (had he turned around like a man it would be all for not) and broke his neck but there are far bigger issues in the world to concern ourselves over. Want to feel sorry for someone, feel sorry for the soldiers dying in a war while earning a mere pittance of what Moore earned to play a game.
I don't feel sorry for the guy at all. Live by the sword, die by the sword. I'm not a big fan of Bertuzzi, but I am sick of him getting vilified for a brain cramp that led to a freak accident.
2007-09-12 14:37:54
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answered by Bob Loblaw 7
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the hit ended his career. as far as compensation goes i don't see the NHL owing him more than medical bills. Moore made a mistake fighting a star player, but that doesn't justify what Bertuzzi did. if Bertuzzi wanted to defend his teammate he should of dropped his gloves and fought him like a man, instead he broke his neck from behind. nothing justifies this and the move was an embarrassment to hockey.
2007-09-12 17:05:10
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answered by DC FURY 6
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He could be listed as physically unable to perform and the Avs pay off his contract. They get the money from the insurance policy they have with Lloyds so they aren't out of pocket but they do have to count the money against the cap. He didn't play enough games to warrant a pension but he can file a civil suit.
Moore's problem is since the act took place in Vancouver it has to be filed there and Canadian courts don't toss around money in these suits like American ones do which is why he has tried to get it moved to the U.S. It won't happen.
It's not being swept under the rug. It will eventually be right out there on the clothesline for all to see.
2007-09-12 15:29:15
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answered by PuckDat 7
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