Do liberals think Iraq is a killing field for our soldiers?

Question

Actually, it is a killing field for our enemies. What better way could we get them?

Iraq is a trap for Al Qaeda. Our mere presence in the heart of the Osama's Caliphate-To-Be draws them like ants to sugar. General Petraeus just reported that

"...in the past 8 months, we have considerably reduced the areas in which Al Qaeda enjoyed sanctuary. We have also neutralized 5 media cells, detained the senior Iraqi leader of Al Qaeda-Iraq, and killed or captured nearly 100 other key leaders and some 2,500 rank-and-file fighters. Al Qaeda is certainly not defeated; however, it is off balance and we are pursuing its leaders and operators aggressively." More on the link...

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/09/iraq_as_qaeda_bait.html

artgurrl--the only art you have is insulting people who don't agree with you. lol

you_whining_poseur--are you and artgurl related?lol

midnight&moonlight's-- well let them come on over to Iraq so we can get them.

I noticed the liberals have no alternate plan for getting rid of our enemies, only criticism! Ha

Answer 1

Liberals seem to lack a lot of things to me especially, the ability to stay objective and be realistic. They want quick fixes to everything, are super short-sighted, and refuse to look at all the good that has happened since we've been in Iraq. For being "liberals" they obviously don't believe that liberation is for other nations besides the U.S.!

Answer 2

It is rather strange the most powerful military is unlikely to ever win another war. Their problem starts off by calling everything a police action. Even in the US unless the local residence have to be basically on the polices' side, or law will loose. Being so powerful the US always looks like the bully. They are hamstrung by their rules of engagement. The Press & the Left in effect act like the enemys 5th column. If it is true that Al Qaeda's Jahad is fueled by the 1st world's decadence, the Left & the Press are supplying both the weapons & the fuel that will finally attack them.

The Left & the Press could be leaders for the rest of the world enjoying the privilages the do, but they choose to see the free world as the enemy of the 3rd World. They don't use their "Superior Intellect" to offer thought out solutions that uses the hated Capitalist own driving force to get what they want.

Answer 3

Interviewers of Bush promptly checklist that he's indifferent to the reality that his approval score is so low, and refuses to act on public opinion. Insiders continually say that he's extra enthusiastic approximately his legacy than with the present 2d. If Iraq is gained interior the top histroy will choose him by way of fact the president that regrouped the country economically interior the wake of Sept. 11 and toppled the Taliban and Hussein regimes. it extremely is a marvelous legacy. Iraq could be gained in spite of the incontrovertible fact that, there would be no "peace with honor" equivilent, in any different case he will in straightforward terms be remembered for commencing that war.

Answer 4

You got it. Iraq is Al Qaeda fly paper. Most do not know the importance that the Sunni in particular place on Iraq. Iraq is where the twelfth Imam is supposed to be residing in a well to return and establish the last Caliphate. Al Qaeda is an off shoot of the Muslim Brotherhood that were establish in 1928 and are dedicated to the spread of Islam and the strict implementation of Sharia Law also Sunni. This is an old war they have just expanded it to include us.

Answer 5

All i hear from republicans is statistics. Bombing are down 3 percent , ten # 2's were caught, we installed 9 water fountains in Baghdad. However, they fail to look at the victims of this war. The soldiers with missing limps, the Iraqi children infected with dirty water and harmful chemicals in the air, the young Iraqi boy who turned into a resistance fighter after his family was killed by an act of senseless violence (insurgent or US it doesn't matter!)

These are the things the right does not see, they see troop numbers and number of Iraqi's killed (civilian and combatant alike) as progress.

We won in Iraq, We caught and killed Sadamm, we made sure no terrorist had access to WMD's.

The only failure in Iraq is our arrogance to reality. We unleashed the fury of an entire population. More lives than ever were disrupted regardless of how evil Sadamm really was to his people. And worst of all these guys had nothing to do with 9/11!!

Answer 6

Really??

And the White House US intelligence chiefs were just what? Talking out of their a$$ in July??

"Intelligence analysts told Congress yesterday that al-Qaeda’s training activities, funding and communications have increased as the militant network has settled into new bases in remote areas of Pakistan. Al-Qaeda’s central command was “resurgent” in planning operations, John Kringen, head of the CIA’s intelligence directorate, said. “They seem to be fairly well settled into the safe haven in the ungoverned spaces of Pakistan. We see more training. We see more money. We see more communications.”

Answer 7

Too bad that you think Al-Qaeda has been dealt a death-blow in Iraq. It hasn't and will never be--so long as we keep making a royal mess of things.

But this portion of a newly released report (from the link below) blows out what you think is 'good news':

In its annual report on global security, the International Institute of Strategic Studies painted a bleak picture of conflict in the Middle East, an emboldened al-Qaida and growing Islamic radicalism across Europe. New European leaders offer hope of a fresh approach in the fight against terrorism, the report said, but success is unlikely with the White House struggling to command global respect.

With weak leadership from Washington, "the risk is that simmering international tensions will spill over and endanger global prosperity," the report said.

The institute warned that a string of thwarted terrorist plots in Europe highlights the increased radicalization of Islamic communities on the continent — and a wider failure to disable Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida network.

"The United States and its allies have failed to deal a deathblow to al-Qaida; the organization's ideology appears to have taken root to such a degree that it will require decades to eradicate," the report said.

BTW?

Military leaders make great mouthpieces for our government. While they are paid to do their job, they are also known to lie about the current situation--too keep in favor with the current administration. (Remember Oliver North?)

Why do you think so many generals were axed by Bush in the past? It wasn't because they weren't doing their jobs, but because they couldn't LIE to cover up the real truth about what's been going on in Iraq.

So naturally, Bush needed someone who *could* lie and do it well.

In reality, the past 8 months of this surge have been a miserable failure. We don't have enough troops to counter a spread-out insurgency.

As for Al-Qaeda in Iraq, I seriously doubly that we've dealt them any kind of blow. Because if these people were such high-valued targets, why isn't there any news on them?

There are more members in this organization than we have soldiers and bullets. You capture one, kill a dozen, they all get replaced.

That's the nature of the insurgency and Al-Qaeda. They'll keep coming and coming, and coming, and there's nothing you can do about it.

Answer 8

(First, note that al-Qaida in Iraq is a separate group from al-Qaida proper. References to al-Qaida tend to conflate these separate groups.)

With the anniversary of 9/11 and the consequent pro-war propaganda campaign, one should recall the fact that Osama Bin Laden and al-Qaida wanted the US government to invade Iraq, and want the occupation to continue. This is stated outright in al-Qaida's internal communications. Intelligence analysts (e.g., the CIA) conclude that Osama's statements to the contrary are intended to goad Bush into continuing the occupation.

The invasion/occupation of Iraq got rid of al-Qaida's enemy, the "socialist", "infidel dog" Saddam Hussein; it destroyed the positive reputation of the US around the world; it costs the US greatly in lives and money; it itself generates its own opposition among the general population of Iraqi; and it costs al-Qaida next to nothing, as they have practically no presence in Iraq. Al-Qaida leaders cite the Soviet invasion/occupation of Afghanistan as a precedent in which Muslims have defeated a superpower, and expect the same sort of victory against the US in Iraq.

Readers should remember to take care when analyzing al-Qaida's public statements, as they are made strategically. Intelligence analysts believe that public pronouncements before the 2004 elections were intended to benefit Bush's chance of re-election, for instance, by pretending to oppose him.

Some sample references.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo/message/9694
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo/message/9078
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo/message/8433

News & Views for Anarchists & Activists:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo/

Answer 9

More likely, Al Quaeda considers Iraq American fly paper. We've lost close to 4,000 American GIs. We keep losing more lives and the rate does not seem to be going down. Just because we kill more AlQuaeda (which if it could be proven is doubtful) than we lose does not mean we are winning. In fact AlQuaeda seems to gaining members faster than we are killing them off. The bottom line is that Petraeus cannot predict when we will have accomplished whatever our objective is and that we will need to keep a substantial number of troops there for a long time.

Answer 10

Killing Fields means the slaughter of civilians that occurs when America first invades a country, destabilizes it, then changes it's mind and leaves, leaving our enemies to fill the vacuum we've created and butcher all the people in that country who believe in any of America's values.