1 in 4 Pregnancies in Britain end in abortion. Is this what the feminists really want?

Question

Here is the link to an article in the daily mail. Where even the feminist writer was appalled.
http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/live/articles/columnists/columnists.html?in_article_id=481103&in_page_id=1772&in_author_id=463&in_check=N

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I remember that definition. Looks like they are nearly there.

EDIT:smartsassysabrina
Sorry your article was in 2005. 185,000 abortions.
My article is 2007 - 214,000 abortions and rising.

EDIT:smartsassysabrina
Here is the basic maths. I can see a keen example of a feminist manipulating statistics to defend an untenable position here!
669,531 live births in 2006
214,000 abortions in 2006
Total 883,531 pregnancies
214,000/883,531 = .242 = 24%. or just under 1 in 4.
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=369

Answer 1

My guess is... it's what the mothers want. They do have a choice. Most femnists believe in choice though. They believe a woman should be able to decide what happens to her body. Not a stodgy old white man in a suit who thinks he has a monopoly on women's health.

Answer 2

iamacricket is right.
The cause of pregnancy is well-known and it is preventable in almost every instance; if enough care is taken, it is 100% preventable.
Virtually every pregnancy is caused by agreement between a man and a woman to have sex. Abortion on demand is the codified "get out of jail free" card for women to be irresponsible for their actions.
It is odd that men are held to an entirely different and much higher standard of liability in this (and other) area. Abortion, like feminism has nothing to do with equal rights, it is about special rights and laws for women only in order to allow them to be irresponsible and unaccountable if they choose.
Then you just got to love it when a feminist claims that men have the ability to "just walk away", like that was even an option. It is illegal IF the mother chooses for him to pay her for birthing. The ONLY way a man can "walk away" is that 1) he doesn't know about the pregnancy (although he may be dunned years, decades later to pay for it all); 2) the mother wants him out of the picture. No man (at least in the "free world") has the option of just ignoring a pregnancy.

Answer 3

I saw a great bumper sticker this morning-

"Isn't it hypocritical if someone believes in abortion when they've already been born themselves?"

Anyway, Feminists promoted choice for all women in regards to their reproductive rights, but it's the abortion clinics who are greatly profiteering because of women's rights, and they don't give a crap, they just want to get rich.
Also, some doctors are forgetting their Hippocratic oath by promoting abortion as well. I should know, it happened to me while pregnant with 3rd child after contraceptive failure(I ended up continuing with pregnancy and my son is now 3).
Read about a former abortionist-
http://www.abortionfacts.com/dr_willke/connector_july_98.asp#1
They don't care about women's rights, they're out for the dollar.
My female doctor promotes health, not death. It was actually a male doctor who promoted abortion to me. My current female doctor bulk-bills me, so while she would be making a decent living, she still cares about her patients unlike abortionists.
My gripe is not with feminists, but abortionists who are taking advantage of vulnerable women.

Answer 4

Your link is to an op ed piece with specious statistics. The true figures are a little more complicated, and are never as high as 25%.
Here is a better article:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4720813.stm

Ok forget the article, look at the numbers. 184,000 abortions is 16.9 in 1000 births, which is only 1.69%. Your number of 214,000 abortions is 19.7 in 1000 births, which is 1.97%. Regardless of which numbers you use, there is no way you can round that up to 25%

Answer 5

Oy. I really fail to see why it's anyone else's business but the woman and her partner. That's fine and dandy that the writer doesn't agree with abortions after 13 weeks, but who is she to impose her morality onto others? I also cringe at the thought of getting abortion and I use the pill to ensure that I won't be in that situation, but it's not my place to say what another woman does with her own uterus. Why can't people trust women to make their own choices about their OWN BODIES? Why do anti-choicers frame pregnancy as a punishment?

And let's not forget that there is a race aspect to this, as Yoda (conveniently for me) pointed out. You don't care if poor women or minority women abort. It's when all the middle class white girls (who are usually the ones who abort) abort that it's an issue.

Answer 6

Feminists never lobbied for high abortion rates. The point was to make it legal and accessible for those who needed it. If we had it our way, improved birth control (RU-486) would make abortion unnecessary. Hopefully whoever gets elected in '08 will reopen that debate.

If so many women in Britain don't want children, they shouldn't use abortion as birth control. But it's hardly our place to tell them what to do.

Answer 7

Uh, whoever told you feminists want to increase the number of abortions was lying to you.

Every feminist I've ever known in my life, or heard of, supports policies that would reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies.

Since unwanted pregnancy is a really sucky situation, and causes 100% of abortions, reducing it to nearly nothing would nearly eliminate abortion.

Answer 8

Here's something we can agree on: stop getting pregnant! It's is not evolved, or enlightened or whatever to keep getting pregnant when you don't want to be. Birth control, condoms, abstinence, whatever works for you, just people are taking risks when there is no reason to be.

Answer 9

oh geesh

Another guy aslks if a woman does not get an abortion on demand - shouldn't the guy be able to walk away.

I think the stats are way off....... British women have better access to birth control than American women.

Answer 10

It's 1/4 of what they want.

FYI, in the US, 45% of black fetuses are aborted.