it goes to the pitcher (say it bounced...not an out) who is in between 1st and 3rd bases....why do they always seem to go for the out at 1st instead of 3rd? I would think it's better strategy to keep people away from the plate.....and I watch a lot of Mariners games....what the hell are Ralley Fries???
2007-09-11 21:36:20 · 13 answers · asked by the WOG 3 in Sports ➔ Baseball
1.) The out at first base is a force out. There's no chance of the runner at 2nd getting home in most cases, so they would rather get one out closer to the end of the inning and allow the runner to advance to 3rd base. If they go for the base runner at 2nd, there's no force out, and the chances of getting the runner are very slim in most circumstances. That can result in two runners on base and first and second or third.
When the next batter comes up, let's say he hits a double. If there's only one runner at third, only one run comes in. If there are runners at first and second (or third), then two runs probably come in.
2.) Here's an explanation I found online.
"During a TV broadcast earlier in the season, the cameras showed a fan dropping his French fries while trying to catch a foul ball. Mike Blowers, a former player and now a TV analyst for the Mariners, sent the fan a replacement order of fries. Fans began showing up with "rally fries" signs, and the Mariners would seem to score in the innings the fries were delivered, thus the "rally fries" name."
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070902&content_id=2184752&vkey=news_sea&fext=.jsp&c_id=sea
2007-09-11 21:49:25 · answer #1 · answered by Jason P 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I guess Ralley Fries are what they sell to get the team rallying.
As for your scenario. The runner on 2nd has a lead, when the ball is hit, the runner is usually almost at 3rd by the time the pitcher gets the ball. Add to this that most pitchers are right handed, and it's more natural to throw to first, than to spin around, and throw to third. The pitcher is gaurenteed an out at first, but if he throws to 3rd, he might not get the runner, at which point, the 3rd basemen doesn't have enough time to throw to first.
2007-09-12 04:44:52 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
A runner at 2B is in scoring position. On most base hits, he will score. Using that logic, he is really no closer to home than if he were on 3B. Being on 3B however will allow him to score on a wild pitch/passed ball .
Unless the runner gets caught in "no mans land" the play at 3B is an "iffy play" at best. The out at 1B is a force, and much easier to make.
The proper move would be to "check the runner, and get the out." That may mean if the F1 (pitcher) sees a chance to make the tag out on the runner, he will go there.
In early innings however, they will most always try for the sure out, then try and keep the runner at third.
Remember, the runner from 2B will be behind the pitchers vision, if he turns he may lose sight on the BR headed to first, and get no outs. If the runner breaks home from 3B, the pitcher can more easily check him and throw to 1B, or home as needed.
I have no idea what Rally Fries are. There is a hamburger chain named RALLY'S, I bet they sell "Rally Fries!"
2007-09-12 09:46:27 · answer #3 · answered by br549 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Any play at first base is always a force play. You do not have to tag the runner. At third base you would have to tag the runner who would be sliding in.
Also the runner on second base always.has a lead of at least 10 feet when the ball is hit.
Finally the pitcher would have to turn if he wanted to throw to third base. The pitcher is he has fielded the ball is probably in a much better position to throw to first base.
Remember always go for the sure out. A bad play at third base would result in no out and might lead to a big inning.
2007-09-12 06:52:48 · answer #4 · answered by jsv1946 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Just like everyone else stated, there is no force out at third base, so the pitcher is going to go for the sure out at first. Plus, the pitchers momentum coming off the mound is carrying him towards first for an easy flip to the first baseman. You always get the sure out otherwise if you make a mistake or the runner beats the tag at third then you have runners at the corners with no outs.
2007-09-12 09:54:05 · answer #5 · answered by r u serious? 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It is usually more important to get an out at first and get closer to ending the inning than to prevent a runner going from second to third. A runner is usually going to score on a hit no matter if he is on second or third. It's true that only a arunner on third will score on a sac fly so it depends on the situation.
If there are no outs and it's the bottom of the ninth they might try to keep the guy on second from reaching third. The pitcher might look the runner back to second and then go to third but If they get the runner trapped in a rundown, the batter might be able to reach second so they had better get the other runner out. IF the runner got a good jump they might not get a play on him at third anyway, then you have failed to get an out and you have a man on third and first.
If there is already one out, then they definitely want to get the runner at first for the second out. Then you've taken out the threat of a sac fly.
2007-09-12 09:18:42 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
The runner headed for third can stop and go back to second, allowing two base runners on. The lead runner is already in scoring position when the batter comes up, so the out becomes very important ESPECIALLY if there's two outs in the inning.
I would much rather have a runner on third with one out than two runners on first and second with no outs.
Rally Fries settle the stomach when your team is down and you're nervous as hell. LOL
2007-09-12 04:45:27 · answer #7 · answered by Your Uncle Dodge! 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
You want the sure out. The runner on second began with a large lead, so he didn't have to run the full 90 feet to third. Plus, because there's no force at third, you would have to tag the runner. A tag play isn't as high percentage a play as just touching the base.
By the way, the play at first IS NOT A FORCE. Read the definition of a force in the rule book.
2007-09-12 11:19:06 · answer #8 · answered by Ryan R 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
It is a percentage play, the runner going to third has a better chance of making it safely to third than the pitcher has of turning, throwing to third and the third baseman making the tag. The out at first is a sure thing, force out no tag needed.
Rally Fries sound like a stadium trying to sell more merchandise and concessions.
2007-09-12 12:38:54 · answer #9 · answered by bdough15 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Take the definite out, pitch for another ground ball and minimize your losses. with 0 outs, with one out you get the second out on this play and only need one more with a runner on third.
The base runner is smart enough to not go to third until the ball has been thrown. there is no force at third in this scenario so the runner does not have to go.
2007-09-12 08:21:09 · answer #10 · answered by rhuzzy 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋