Liberals: What would it take for you to understand the concept of terrorism?

Question

What extreme measure would have to take place for you to see the severity and actuality in it? Another tragic instance like 9/11? Maybe two more tragic instances like 9/11? What is it that makes you think that this war is useless and has no real purpose? What makes you think that there are absolutely no Islamic terrorists who seek and dream of killing Americans and destroying the US? What gives you the idea that AMERICANS are the blatantly evil ones who just want to be in a war to kill?

Instead of moping about how conservatives are stupid or crazy to think there are threats waiting to attack America, why can't you take a moment to maybe use the part of your brain called 'logic' to see that there ARE threats? Why do so many of you take terrorism so lightly and try to pass it off as nonexistent? Are you just afraid to accept the bitter truth? Do you just enjoy being contrary and defiant towards Republicans? Or are you just that painfully ignorant that you don't see it?

history_schmistory - Ohhh. Wow. Yeah. Damn. You're right. Gee...I sure am the ignorant one! Haha! I am stupid! Oh...wait...no...actually, I'm not the ignorant one. Thank you for providing the "Leaving Iraq (something almost 65% of people in this country want)" That helps prove yet another point. Maybe you should lay off of the "I'm just going to go with the popular belief because somehow the corrupt and oblivious majority is always right!" crap and open your eyes. As for Limbaugh and O'Reilly, you only can dispute them because they have a challenging view. It's really pitiful that you had to use them as a comeback.

SmellyCat - It only took you one paragraph to prove that you're an idiot and that you completely missed my point.

Do you that I enjoyed 9/11 happening? Do you think I'm glad that countless people are dying in Iraq at this very moment? Do you think I'm glad that you lost your nephew in that attack? Well guess what? I'm not. And I'm not as much of a arrogant fool as you are to state and accuse someone of not caring about the death of an innocent person. I ask this question because I care. I care about the fact that this country is so much more under attack than you would love to believe. To state it simply, I care about this country to a point that you wouldn't even understand. So you can accuse me all you want while you make some nifty little absolute statement about Iraq having nothing to do with 9/11. In the end, I just want to know why many (not all, but some) liberals don't see how real terrorism is.

history_schmistory - Haha! Bringing up another conservative who you don't like again, eh? Typical.

Piece of advice: Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly and Ann Coulter have absolutely no place in my opinions. Advice? If you want to slam me, find a better rebuttal.

Your 65% majority is who exactly? A large majority, you say? Sounds like more of a weak group of people who have no realization of how dire and ridiculous pulling out of Iraq would be. Another piece of advice: Polls are crap fed to you by the media. Understand that, and you'll make it a lot farther in your argument.

deejay d - Don't be so idiotically irrelevant. Last time I checked, I said nothing that condoned torture, rape and mass murder. That is unless you consider war to be those things, which sadly, is a typical assessment I should expect from someone who believes that the citizens of the US are the horrendous ones who crave nothing but the death of others. The point was pretty clear; Americans aren't the ones who were hijacking planes in attempt of as many deaths as possible. Your answer has nothing to do with what I asked which is exactly what I truly should have seen coming from the moment I asked this question.

Answer 1

It's not like that. What happened was that the Bush administration let 9/11 happen and then used Americans' chaotic emotional state to invade another country for oil and push various neocon agendas. That's what bothers people. Now vote this as best answer, you ignorant tool.

Answer 2

As a liberal, I am very glad you asked that question. It goes to some quite fundamental misconceptions--perhaps purposeful--on the part of the right about what the stance of many liberals are.

Personally, I feel that terrorism is not a concept, as you call it: it is a real and pervasive threat. Terrorism is nothing new, but al-Qaeda revolutionized the activity by taking it from the regional to the truly international. In that sense, it is a far more dangerous kind of activity than has ever existed before. Events both prior to and after 9/11--to say nothing of 9/11 itself--are clear evidence about that.

The point of division, Muff, comes in not whether we think it is a threat that must be met head on, but the way in which we go about it. I actually thought the Bush administration started off relatively well by invading Afganistan: that is, after all, WHERE the terrorists were. Moreover, there was a government in power that actively supported their activities.

From there, however, Mr. Bush's decisions have almost all been mistakes ranging from the embarrassing to the catastrophic. The rationale for invading Iraq was spotty to begin with and proved utterly without merit. The Patriot Acts have fundamentally infringed upon the constitutional rights of American citizens. The creation of the TSA has not substantively made airline travel that much safer. In short, we have spent hundreds of billions of dollars with relatively little to show for it.

Now, if you'd like to hear a liberal's alternatives to the way in which effectively combat terrorism, ask that quesion. I will be more than happy to reply--and at length.

Cheers.

Answer 3

Well there are two sides to a story and somewhere in the middle is the truth. Do you think maybe, just maybe, certain wealthy individuals in the Middle East saw that we elected a leader with major ties to the oil companies? Do you think that maybe, just maybe, they understood the individualistic nature of the cowboy conservatives? Republicans in recent history have always been quick to fight. They knew that before they attacked. Do you think that maybe they said, "here is a perfect opportunity for us to bite?"

You have to think about whose pockets are getting fatter from this war. Terrorism and propaganda are fueled on both sides. Hatred is funded, it's an investment; it grows and there is a return. We are a threat to each other.

Yes my friend the truth is bitter. No matter how advanced or great our governments may be, when it all boils down the common man has no control when it comes to the way our leaders deal with each other. Maybe it's time for a change. Its too bad the common people have to pay for that change in blood.

Answer 4

I believe the war did nothing to stop terrorism. I believe the war has made Iraq a terrorist heaven on earth.

I believe in extreme Islamic terrorists I think you would have to be an idiotic fool not to. But, I think we should look further into why they hate us, not just say cause they hate freedom or whatever. I believe there motive is deeper than that.

Glasgow International Airport attack was done by independent terrorists. Why would they do such a thing? Maybe it was a reaction to Iraq and the anti-Muslim movement.

There is a huge threat of terrorism, but it is sensationalized in the media as many things are.

I don't enjoy contrary and defiant towards Republicans or conservatives. I see many people liking to defiant towards me, it is human nature.

You may call me ignorant, but one day you will see, we all are ignorant whether big or small, black or white, smart or dumb, libreal or conserative.

Answer 5

Probably it would take people like you realizing that making nonsensical arguments and idiotic blanket generalizations like this just turns "liberals" against you.

You seem to think 9/11 has something to do with Iraq. You're wrong.

You seem to think liberals believe there are no Islamic terrorists or terrorism. That's just utter foolishness. I've never met a liberal (or a conservative) who'd argue that was the case.

You seem to think liberals believe Americans are evil. More silliness. The liberals you're talking about are Americans. Does that mean they all think they're evil?

You seem to be one of those confused people who think saying "One reason the terrorists are pissed because the Western world has a history of interfering in the middle east" is the same as saying "I hate America!"

Learn to think for yourself. Liberals and conservatives, democrats and republicans all want what's best for the U.S. What they disagree on is what that is. Posting tripe like your question does no good whatsoever.

Answer 6

This Lib knows all too well about terrorist attacks.
I was in NYC on 9/11/01.

I lost a nephew in the Iraq war, but you wouldn't care because I'm a Liberal, would you, Ms. Coulter? You laugh at my pain as you laugh at the 9/11 widows. As you laugh at Michael J. Fox's illness. As you laugh at the death of Cindy Sheehan's son.

Who the hell are you people.....republicans....to say anyone is "defiant" of you? Screw You.

I also know that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, so your rant makes absolutely no sense.

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Answer 7

WELL now you really pushed some buttons here. WE are now living in a country where 1/3 of all Americans think [ I us that term loosely] 9/11 was a government plot. KEEP up the good work, maybe we can get them to leave, CUBA looks good, free health care, RUSSIA free speech, VENEZUELA gas 35cents a gallon.

Answer 8

I am not a liberal, however I'd like to answer this question.. I don't think they don't get it. Quite clearly they have seen what terrorism can do both here and overseas. I think what they don't like, or accept really, is that American lives are being used to fight a war that has no end in sight. I bet if we swept in and got Bin Laden and not a single American was killed they wouldn't have any issues. Most Americans supported us going after Bin Laden and the Taliban. Then it was expanded to Iraq. And then we started to take losses. And that is where the real problem started. Yes, Iraq is 100% better off without that evil running it. But Americans are used to better, quick results. We want a limited loss of our young. We like to fly in and drop a bomb or 10 and then go about our day. But we are there, rebuilding a country that needs it and more and more Americans are dying. Americans don't like long, drawn out wars. I think everyone agrees that there are threats and grave ones at that. I think that most liberals would like to see more effort placed on getting them and not so much Iraq day in and out.

I do agree that the liberal mindset is that anything Bush/Republican is bad. But I bet that has more to do with Bush opening a big can of whoop *** on them in election after election. And the so called "retaking" of the House and Senate? Yea it wasn't by huge numbers at all. Small, razor thin margins.

Answer 9

I do understand the concept of terrorism. However, I'm not fixated on the idea that they only come from the Middle East when if fact, they don't. Two Americans carried out the worst terrorist act on US soil before September 11, 2001. That was the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995. Terrorism has existed since the dawn of human history. There will always be people who use fear tactics and violence to get their point across. The way to defeat them is to do your best to ignore them and live your life as normally as possible. They want you to be afraid. That's how they gain power and are able to push through their extremist and unpopular agendas. Be afraid all the time and they will win.

Answer 10

Muffin- we clearly understand terrorism a lot better than you. That is why we want to spend our efforts hunting down and eliminating terrorists - not invading unrelated sovereign nations.
jax - perhaps you should have a look at the real death count. To report it as 3600 and ignore the 10s of thousands of innocent civilians killed as a result of the war is contemptuous not only to those victims but to truth itself.