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Hi All
Below is an article I found on Yahoo. (scroll below what I wrote if the link doen't work: http://green.yahoo.com/index.php?q=node/1570 )
It's a facinating concept I think. I have little doubt this process will be exploited at some time in the future. One thing bothers me: Once the water is burned, what will the exhaust product be? Will the water naturally reform just as fast as it was consumed? I know there is a LOT of water in the world, but if the water burned as fuel cannot be reclaimed, it's just a matter of time til things dry up permanently.
This process could sell like hotcakes. The "oil burden" would be over. Possibly the dirty exhaust would be over too. This is good. In order for this to be a harmless solution, though, there needs to be a complete cycle: salt water--> energy + exhaust --> saltwater again.
Another consideration is: Can the neccisary radio frequency be produced with enough power in close proximity to life without screwing up that life (us included!) I work with radio frequency generators and there are warnings all over not to turn on power without the proper precautions. Some radio can scramble or cook your brain. So what frequency is this guy using?
Sorry if I sound like an environmental "wacko". I just love my world, and don't want to see it a dead moon in 10,000 years.

I hope this guy does come up with something good.

Any thoughts?

J



Radio Frequencies Help Burn Salt Water
By David Templeton, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Tue, 11 Sep 2007, 11:41AM
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ERIE, Pa. - An Erie cancer researcher has found a way to burn salt water, a novel invention that is being touted by one chemist as the "most remarkable" water science discovery in a century.
John Kanzius happened upon the discovery accidentally when he tried to desalinate seawater with a radio-frequency generator he developed to treat cancer. He discovered that as long as the salt water was exposed to the radio frequencies, it would burn.
The discovery has scientists excited by the prospect of using salt water, the most abundant resource on earth, as a fuel.
Rustum Roy, a Penn State University chemist, has held demonstrations at his State College lab to confirm his own observations.
The radio frequencies act to weaken the bonds between the elements that make up salt water, releasing the hydrogen, Roy said. Once ignited, the hydrogen will burn as long as it is exposed to the frequencies, he said.
The discovery is "the most remarkable in water science in 100 years," Roy said.
"This is the most abundant element in the world. It is everywhere," Roy said. "Seeing it burn gives me the chills."
Roy will meet this week with officials from the Department of Energy and the Department of Defense to try to obtain research funding.
The scientists want to find out whether the energy output from the burning hydrogen — which reached a heat of more than 3,000 degrees Fahrenheit — would be enough to power a car or other heavy machinery.
"We will get our ideas together and check this out and see where it leads," Roy said. "The potential is huge."
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2007-09-11 12:27:49 · 7 answers · asked by Anonymous in Science & Mathematics Chemistry

7 answers

woohoo!

no more ocean front property in Bakersfield!

2007-09-11 14:34:11 · answer #1 · answered by whosajiggawhat? 2 · 0 0

Basic laws of physics and chemistry prevent this from working. Follow the cycle:

Energy in --> radio waves ---> water ---> hydrogen/oxgyen ---> water + energy out

Energy out cannot exceed energy in. The water is already "burned". Going from water --> hydrogen/oxygen and then back to water CANNOT have a net energy output, and will certainly come up short to at least some extent.

This kind of "water fuelled" whatever has been around for at least 30 years and also proves to be an impossible perpetual motion machine. Anything that runs on this effectively runs on the electricity which makes the radio waves.

Sorry. There is no such thing as "free" energy. It always must come from a potential.

2007-09-12 06:45:10 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

It would be great if someone could truly make this happen. Even as a non-scientist, my common sence tells me that if what they say is true, it should be possible if they can somehow "efficiently" power the radio waves needed to separate the elements. An alternator would obviously provide replenishment to the battery needed to power the radio waves. So that plus a few solar panels should take care of the energy in/out argument. So if it's possible to safely harness and the distribute enough energy to power a car in this fashion then why not? Although it would disrupt a shitload of rich dudes and their everyday monopolies. It would be wonderful without a doubt but I don't see it happening anytime soon and sadly not because of the scientific hardships...

2007-09-12 15:46:13 · answer #3 · answered by LC 2 · 0 0

This is not "new technology. It's been around for decades, and it's not going to revolutionize anything.

Every few years, some "genius" appears claiming how to burn water. All they are doing is separating the hydrogen atoms from the oxygen atoms. The thing is, they're doing it by using an outside source of energy, like radio waves. Where is this outside energy coming from? Usually the electric outlet on the wall.

In other words, they're just using more fuel (coal) to get less fuel (hydrogen.) There's no free lunch. If someone can figure out how to do this with sunlight, then you might have something to talk about.

These idiot reporters who don't understand physics should be fired for entertaining clowns like this.

2007-09-11 13:13:54 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

You trained comprehend it all's continuously speak and by no means feel IN THIS CASE YOU GET A LOT OF SOMETHING FROM VIRTUALLY NOTHING - LOW POWERED FREQUENCY LONG PURE BURN The amplitude used to split the oxygen and hydrogen atams may be very small. It results distorts and breaks the atom bonds in an overly distinct means. It was once designed to assault melanoma cells and may be very effective with little or no vigour used. No greater than what the normal spark plug makes use of. The burn produces eighty% extra vigour than the vigour used to create the final result. So there's no vigour loss - it's an eighty% attain. And he's going to now not promote this inspiration to the Government and Big Oil won't get this and shelve it, that is what the inventor says: "We learned that if you happen to use a work of paper towel as a wick, it lighting fixtures each and every unmarried time and you'll be able to begin it and quit it at will by way of turning the radio waves off and on," Kanzius advised the Times-News as he watched a scan tube of salt water burn. "And seem, the paper itself does not burn," he further. "Well, it burns however the paper isn't ate up." Kanzius stated he hasn't made up our minds whether or not to percentage his gasoline discovery with executive or personal industry, despite the fact that he'd decide upon a federal furnish to increase it. "I'm afraid that if I become a member of up with a few massive vigour organization, they're going to say it does not paintings and shelve it, even supposing it does paintings," Kanzius advised the paper. ......................................... There are nonetheless matters on this global that we have not but found out or learned, so earlier than you come back on right here to shoot it down probably you will have to seem at your mobile mobile and feel again approximately twenty years! This is the truly deal!

2016-09-05 10:32:42 · answer #5 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Nothing will become of this new technology, because Big Powerful people in the oil business have paid billions and billions of dollars to the "right" people therefore gauranteeing that OIL will be the dominate fuel source until it is all used up.

The Billionair oil people have also paid top dollar to purchase other types of technology and are "sitting" on it to prevent YOU and ME and everyone else from ending our oil addiction and going to a different source of energy.

Go to YouTube and type in the word "LIFTER" and see what I'm talking about. BTW, Lifter technology is not NEW!

2007-09-11 12:39:51 · answer #6 · answered by BIGDAWG 4 · 0 1

Energy in = Energy out. ............ALWAYS

2007-09-11 12:36:30 · answer #7 · answered by Irv S 7 · 1 0

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