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2007-09-11 10:05:42 · 23 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Mythology & Folklore

i know that magick is not black/ white. but i simply put it that way to differentiate the difference between the two forms.

2007-09-14 04:11:30 · update #1

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Look at the lives of these famous occultists, and then decide if it's worth persuing:

Henry Cornielius Agrippa von Nettesheim: One of the most famous occultists of the middle ages. His work has gone on to inspire hundreds of "magical" books and writings. Despite all his occult knowledge, he died in poverty at age 41 in 1532.

Cagliostro, a famous French-Egyptian "magician", did the most embarrassing things, like putting a teacup on his erect penis and telling women "This is the only Bishop you will bow to!" He died in the Bastille in 1795.

John Dee discovered Enochian Magick and tried unsuccessfully to get the spirits to bring him money. He spent the final years of his life stripped of his honors and income and was forced to live incommunicado. He died in extreme poverty at 81.

Paracelsus: Thought himself a great physician, but he was really just an alchemist who had bizarre theories about human anatomy and prescribed dangerous remedies for his patients. This man was said to be arrogant and conceited, and was shunned by the other medical experts of his day.
He died broke at the age of 48.

Edward Kelly: An assistant of Dee, after failing to strike it rich with Enochian Magick, he was killed trying to escape prison. He had been imprisoned for his old hobby, counterfeiting.

Aleister Crowley had a nervous breakdown in spent 4 months in an insane asylum after trying to conjure a demon in a Paris hotel. In 1947 he died impoverished in a flophouse, forgotten by his family, a drug addict and alcoholic, despite strating out in life as a rich heir to Crowley Ale. He squandered it all on drugs and whores. "Success is your proof " - -Liber Al Vel Legis 3:46, Aleister Crowley

Gurdijef was a Russian con man who got involved in many money making scams. Once he dyed sparrows in peroxide and sold them as canaries! Even his biographers admit he had a "streak of charaltainism" about him. He created a system of bunk psychotherapy which is convoluted and even people who practice it can't clearly explain what is. In other words, it was the forerunner of Scientology.

Christian Rosenkrutz never actually existed. The whole Rosicrucian thing was started as a joke to make fun of occultists by a Lutheran minister named Valentin Andrea.

The Fox Sisters started the whole spiritist/seance’ movement in 1840. Years later they confessed the whole thing had been a hoax, but no one wanted to listen.

Samuel "Macgregor" Mathers: Eventually all the members of te Golden Dawn figured out Mathers lied about the secret chiefs, which led to him being kicked out, & the Golden Dawn being disbanded. He died in poverty from Pnumonia in 1918.

Jack Parsons blew himself up in his basement, making nitroglycerin, which he sold on the black market to supplement his income (apparently his money spells didn't work, either!).

Pamela Coleman Smith painted the illustrations for Authur Edward Waite's tarot deck, one of the most popular decks being used today. She died penniless and alone in a London flat.

Paschal Beverly Randolph inspired people like Aleister Crowley, the members of the O.:T.:O.:., and Henri Gamache. His books are still in print. He committed suicide at age 44, leaving his wife and son to live in poverty.

They couldn't make the occult work, neither can anyone else.
Here's a quote from Wiccan Tradition Head Silver Ravenwolf:

"For years I couldn't afford to go to a hair stylist (still can't, it's shop and chop for me). I got pretty good at stying my own hair from looking at magazine pictures" [SOURCE: Teen Witch, Llewellyn Publications, 2003 edition, page 145]

She also wrote a book about Prosperity spells. Does she sound like she can make it work? She can't even afford a hairdresser! My wife just spent $100 at the beauty parlor and we're far from rich.

Here's another quote from that same book:

"A lot of people tell me how bad their lives have gotten after casting a spell and tell me they won't do Witchcraft anymore. I tell them their lives would have been much worse for not having cast the spell."

If you want to really have a good life, ditch the occult.

2007-09-14 07:44:02 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

The ONLY change is within the point of view of the character describing it. Magic is magic. It all comes from the equal supply. The equal forces which can be used to bless can be utilized to curse. I feel probably the most simplistic definition might be that all of it comes all the way down to purpose, however even that's no longer even just about being correct. People spend some distance an excessive amount of time niggling over black and white magic and no longer ample honestly doing anything. A colleague of mine as soon as stated, "The change among black and whit magic is that black magic is something that honestly achieves a outcome, white magic is the whole lot else." I like that description. Magic is. Use it. There isn't any black or white, the ones are aritficial differences created through persons that experience a must consider morally awesome to others.

2016-09-05 10:25:08 · answer #2 · answered by hodgkiss 4 · 0 0

Magick as energy is a part of my everyday life. Of late I have embraced much more of my mystic side and often find that I don't have to concentrate as much on things that I used to. I really can't share more than that in so public a forum.

Oh, and remember there is no black or white - the magick itself *is*.

2007-09-11 10:25:11 · answer #3 · answered by Zimmia 5 · 1 0

Many who play at magic. Few that study and work at Magick to religious levels.

2007-09-11 11:28:06 · answer #4 · answered by Terry 7 · 0 0

I tended to play red and blue together before Planar Chaos. I liked the draw and search mechanics of blue better than black (hur hur, what are we going to do with black in this new "everything's mixed up" expansion... I know, let's just give them even more card draw power hurr" ), and the direct damage of red. And I like holding my own with as few permanents as possible. Now I'm thinking about shifting to Green and White. Blue really got screwed this time around. Thanks, Wizards of the Coast. Thanks a hell of a lot.

2007-09-11 10:44:37 · answer #5 · answered by Just Jess 7 · 0 0

I am a clairvoyant medium have been practicing for 26 years. I have an excellent reputation and a very large following with clients in Canada and the US.

2007-09-11 10:14:09 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I practice. I do mostly white and divination unless there's something particularly compelling that draws me to one of the various energy conversion/focus directed re-balance methods ..... not black, but still somewhat tricky and dangerous.

2007-09-11 16:21:38 · answer #7 · answered by Jack P 7 · 0 0

I have developed my own form of magic. It involves accessing the archetypal matrix we are all a part of. It's very reliable.
It's funny when you see someone doing something and you know why they are doing but they don't. Be careful though.

2007-09-11 10:15:36 · answer #8 · answered by Legend L 2 · 0 0

My husband is a healer, but he doesn't do magic. He can take someone's pain away but not cure major illnesses. As a disabled person myself, he keeps me mobile by helping relieve my pain.
He also knows instinctively when someone has committed a crime and appears on TV denying it. Is it a gift or an insight? We don't know either.

2007-09-11 10:14:15 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

There's no way to figure that out. Even then, there's really no such thing as black or elemental magic, and divination is kind of stretching it.

2007-09-11 12:06:51 · answer #10 · answered by Ian 3 · 0 1

I don't practice and I don't want to use it I just talk about it but I tried to be as normal as possible at home because I speak my mind here funny sad or divination.I got wings and of course I have special power but I don't really know how to use it It need to be activated by my wing man which I haven't found yet.

2007-09-11 10:13:12 · answer #11 · answered by @NGEL B@BY 7 · 0 1

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