Time we liberated the 'Liberators' and bring them home?

Answer 1

Alpha Male, you are a fool.

Unless we are willing to concede that this country is ruled by a military dictatorship, blame has to got to rest with civilian 'leadership', deplorably few of whom are statesmen and protectors of liberty. That this administration gives not a whit about its soldiers, is only to say that this one is no better than any that came before it, even back to the Civil and Revolutionary Wars. This country does not take care of our veterans. Their care is second-rate, at best. Their salaries are draconian, and their respect, apart from some flag-waving and yellow ribbons and other empty gestures, for the sacrifice they continue to offer, is nothing short of embarassing. To sacrifice one's life for one's country is a hell of a thing. It's admirable, and anyone who offers themselves thus should not be put in harm's way, unless the situation is dire. When our White House states that Saddam is a threat, and that he has WMD, has has definite plans to use them on us, is it too much to ask that we, the people they are elected to represent, see the proof? And if we see that the proof is groundless, is it not our duty to not allow our troops to be sent? And if they are sent, is it not our duty to not subject our troops to hostile fire as they defend themselves from those resisting their illegitimate invasion? Is that how we support our troops, by making targets of them? Is that what is meant by fighting them there?
Whether the 'surge' is working depends on what you mean by 'working.'
If what you want to do is 'secure' Iraq to make it safe for US oil concerns and capital control, and you have no diplomatic credibility, then you use "the army you have (Rumsfeld), and make up for what you lack in moral support with military force. The Generals will succeed in creating an American military dictatorship, using a plyable local as a figure-head, making sure that he knows to ask the US to stay, and can be quoted to tell the American people how much they love democracy and freedom and the US for the newspapers.
Asking for a military progress report begs the question. Further, it is not military progress that is needed. The people of Iraq have had their country destroyed, thanks to the US and the UK. They have had their military disbanded, and the artificial 'boundaries' that the fading British empire drew around the oil fields, carving Iraq out of the world war two-weakened Persian empire, and made it all legal by creating British investor-friendly, repressive regimes to sign the deeds and concession deals, to take loans to buy British arms, and to invite in British military advisers to train quislings in how to keep the people passive in the midst of the injustice and theft being then instituted.
As Britain has faded, the US has assumed its place, and not much else has changed. We, as they, cloak our actions in the highest praise of rights and liberty and justice. We, as they, still covet the riches of other nations and peoples, and we as they are not hesitant about using force to get what we want. We have become experts in the twisting of language, and in all the arts of pursuasion. We ignore what we do not want to hear, and we do not want to hear that our people are doing bad things to other people. We do not want to think that we cold ever be as bad as someone else, or that our leaders would mis-lead us for their own gain, or to advance the interests of the United States, which the powerful see as one and the same.
To ask for a military assessment to a political problem is to be asking the wrong questions, so what does it matter what the answers are?

Answer 2

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Answer 3

You know... it's funny... almost every nedneck republican had a yellow ribbon on their car (which was made in China) a few years ago...

And then soldiers started returning home and seeing these stupid ribbons everywhere and it pissed them off... they said "How does that help anyone? We never felt any support from those Yellow ribbons while we were bravely following commands... those yellow ribbons were to make YOU feel better."

When the lucky ones do come home, and a good few of them start voting Democrat and tell the obnoxious herophiles to shove off... it will be quite clear to everyone that the war was just like every other war... no grand design of freedom... just greed and loss of life.

Answer 4

Ha, a liberal "liberating" the U.S. Army.

HAHAHA, that's a good one.

Listen Hoss, WE fight for YOU! If you want to fight something so bad, Sign Up! Fight for your country, not against it.

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

YOU CAN NOT SUPPORT THE TROOPS AND NOT SUPPORT THEIR MISSION.

Wanting them to come home alive IS NOT support, it's being a decent human being.

Supporting us is supporting what we BELIEVE in. You don't seem to care that the majority of Soldiers, Marines, Airmen and Sailors support what we are doing.

It's like telling your wife/husband you support them in opening a new business just to turn around and tell everyone they are corrupt, the business is a failure, ETC.

Not What We Call Support. But Thanks Anyway, At Least You're Not Spitting On Us Anymore.

Answer 5

I say we support our troops by bringing them home alive and well to the families that love them.

Answer 6

Only if they ask. Petraeus says we can win with more time, so give the military more time to do its work. We made a mess in Iraq, and we need to clean it up.

Take responsibility for your actions, and yes, you can say you are against the war and even voted against it, but if you're living in the USA, then it's your problem to clean up too.

Answer 7

Yes, we brought too many home in bags.

Answer 8

Long overdo

Answer 9

Absolutely! *sm*

Answer 10

You call yourself Humanist, but exactly how are you a humanist if you allow terrorists to kill innocent human being? Murder US citizens? Continue to threaten, torture, and abuse anyone who does not agree with them?

Exactly how is that being a humanist?

You sir are either a hypocrit or ignorant of the world around you. Please, in the future, refrain from proving me correct.