Most women & feminist claim they don't take amusement at a man being hit?

Question

But, when I was being graded for Karate only days ago, a girl of 15 smacked the sensai in the groin. As she was a higher belt than me, I had to wait on the sides for all the higher belts to finish their gradings. As this happened, I heard from the audience behind me - many women (only) laughing and mocking the sensai for not wearing adequate protection (this move was not part of her training, thus effectively she cheated).
When she came to the side - her mom asked "Did you get him where it hurts" in a very smug fashion, and they laughed about it as if it were just a comical scenario.
As I was still in attendance and not just a viewer, I was unable to say anything - but it reminded me of all the claims that women don't take amusement...
So, we see often in our daily lives women laughing & tittering when men are sexually assaulted - they get asked and they deny it - then we see it again the next day...

Why lie about it?

Patois - I made it quite clear that a 'group' of women were tittering like school girls over a man who had just been smacked in the groin.. not 'one' person, but a 'group' - see the difference?
My question is also why do 'most' women seem to take a smug pleasure in seeing a man sexually assaulted - and yet when asked, they claim 'no', yet show them a scene from a film and they titter like school girls.
I'm not saying 'every' woman finds it amusing, but it 'seems most' do... and thus, it is a lie when they claim they don't.

A man can be arrested & charge for sexual assault for merely touching a woman's groin - let alone kicking it on purpose. As a kick is consdierably more damaging that a touch, I will always insist that kicking & hitting a groin - of either sex - is a sexual assault... especially if it ends up needing medical attention (I've been there myself so know only too well from experience).
A man who hits a woman will be arrested & charged for assault.. thus, a kick or hit to the groin IS an assault... a sexual assault.

Sparkasaur - Indeed, I am asking about two groups of people.. as the question states: Why do 'women AND feminists' (meaning, I recognise that women & feminists are not one & the same, and that men can indeed be feminists).
Just thought i'd better clear your misunderstanding up. :)

bluestareyed - I 'claim' (factually) that a group of women tittered like school kids - one of them being the mother of the child who kicked the sensai.. basically, condoning what her daughter had done. So now, a well versed child of karate knowledge is of the impression that groin kicking is acceptable..and funny.
Men tend not to find it funny, and certainly is not accepted even in real fights - for dominance or otherwise, that is a blatant lie. from today to eons in the past it is known when men fight you "don't hit below the belt". However, due to men's superior strength - it *is* socially acceptable for a woman to abuse that.
It is sexual assault because it is a sexual organ that has been assaulted - end of.
No, nobody at all mentioned "no cup" while tittering... it was purely that he'd been struck in the groin that was to their amusement. Sorry, you have it absolutely wrong from tip to tail.

Rio: Regardless of an individual woman's definition... an attack of the groin is legally sexual assault, specifically a knee. However, it is a rarity for the police to actually charge woman with sexual assault (if she actually gets charged with anything at all). As I have stated, the women were alone in their tittering, so I can't understand who they were apparently copying/joining with, in your mind. No guys were laughing, other women weren't laughing, none of those on the sides (self included) were laughing, and none of the remaining sparrers were laughing...
I'm not saying every woman on the planet would laugh... I'm saying it is my experience most women do laugh though.
Sometimes, I think women laugh more - simply because they're in aposition that they can... after all, they'll never experience it - so why not.

Answer 1

The answer is simple. The group of women probably found the behavior funny because they were taught that this is what is comical by their parents/media/friends when they were younger. Now they are passing it on to a younger generation.

Why lie about it?

Because they would be ostracized from a group if there is nobody around to reward the behavior. I remember taking a social psychology class where there were some very tense moments at first. The one that I remember most was when a study was brought up showing that women don't date a man because of his personality, but because of his money/power/influence. Every woman in the class rose to quickly defend her fellow sisters from this insult and labeled the teacher a male chauvinist pig. Yet I wondered that day how many of their husbands/boyfriends/ significant others met the criteria in the study that was shown. I realized something that day, like you did, that people don't always act in accordance with their purported beliefs. They say one thing and do another so that they aren't ridiculed and ostracized from the group/society. You see people know that it is culturally unacceptable to date men for money/hit them in the groin. Yet, when nobody else is watching or when there is another group of people close by praising the action, a person's behavior manifests itself differently then when there is someone else around or when there isn't a group approving the behavior. In short, the girl hit your sensai in the groin because she was rewarded for the behavior by a few members there. That is all it takes really. As long as you aren't the only one in the room who found it funny, the behavior is rewarded. The girls in my class lashed back at my teacher because they didn't want others believing that they would date men for money/power/influence. Yet it is doubtful that, when nobody is watching or when they aren't with a group of friends that approve this behavior, that they would act in accordance with their beliefs.

Edit: It is sort of like me asking you to rob a store and then telling you that there is a group of people in there and they probably don't like robbers. Would you do it? Probably not. Next I ask you to do the same thing. Yet now I tell you that at least two people would help you rob the store, would you do it? You might or you might not, depending on the size of the group of people who wouldn't approve, but you would be more likely to wouldn't you?

Edit: Psychologists have struggled with that very question about how to determine what feelings people secretly harbor. If you ask anyone 'do you harbor any ill feelings toward men'? The majority of people will obviously say no. But psychologists have found that people who say that they don't harbor any ill will toward a race/gender might still hold prejudicial attitudes toward them. An Implicit Association Test is just one of those psychological tests measuring unconscious attitudes.

Answer 2

The only time I've ever actually seen a man get hit "there" was back in high school...my P.E. class joined with the boys' P.E. class for a soccer game. One boy suffered a direct hit (another boy had kicked the soccer ball hard and accidentally hit him directly in the groin)...the boy was doubled over and then on the ground for several minutes, obviously in a great deal of pain, and seemed to be on the verge of tears. He was the best soccer player in both classes...a big guy, a tough guy...yet the pain had clearly taken him down. Several boys in the class were laughing at him. The boy who kicked the ball didn't even say he was sorry, or approach the boy to help him up or anything. Several girls rushed over (almost in tears because they felt so sorry for him) and surrounded him, trying to find out if he was o.k. So it seemed to me, the girls were much more empathetic and sympathetic than the boys were. I don't think it's fair of you to say that "most" women get some kind of sick satisfaction from seeing men in pain. I don't think that's true.

Answer 3

Since it was a martial arts class, it's kind of a self-selective survey so the data collected isn't representative of the whole population. Women who go to martial arts classes-- especially Karate, which is less about self-defense and more about the actual fighting than such arts as Aikido or Judo-- are a certain personality type.

I might find it fun to playfight with someone, but I wouldn't find it FUNNY to kick a guy in the crotch. It's a low blow, so to speak.

Answer 4

I don't think it's funny to see a man get hit there and I feel the same about a woman getting hit in the same place. It does hurt when women get hit in the groin. It's just not as incapacitating for women as it is for men. A place where it hurts more for women to get hit than men are the breasts but for some reason, nobody seems to find that funny.

Answer 5

Everyone is different, but those who truly believe in equality would sympathize for a person of either sex getting hurt like that.

No matter what that woman and her daughter told me-- I would never believe that they were true feminists. True feminism isn't about ball-busting or being a manhater, it's about seeking equality between the sexes in all controllable areas of life.

Also-- not all women are feminists (surprisingly), and you know it is possible for a man to be a feminist as well? So as per your question "most women & feminists claim they don't..." They are not the same thing!! So you're asking two different questions here, and most women do NOT claim to feel empathetic to male genital pain. And those who say that despite their real feelings might only be lying if the person who asks them is a man, in fear f appearing insensitive.

As for feminists who say that... I don't think real feminists would take joy in watching a man be hurt in the groin-- though, may I point out that men laugh at other guys getting kicked/hurt/slapped in the balls more than women do?

In any case though... I'm sorry you had to see them make women everywhere look bad. We are not all like those bit****. Most of us are quite nice and decent. :)

I hope this enlightened you a bit.

Answer 6

so because you claim that only the women in the room "tittered like schoolgirls" at the fact that your sensei did not prepare to be hit in the groin (which he should have regardless of whether the move was part of her training or not) then women are liars and actually enjoy seeing men physically assaulted?

you have a bit of a point in comparing touching of a woman's groin with a man getting kicked in his. It is seen as culturally acceptable for men to kick each other in the groin as a display of dominance, and not culturally acceptable to grab a woman's crotch, and i think both are wrong. however, the intents are usually different. A man is kicked in the groin to disable him, someone grabs a woman in the groin with the intent to commit an act that is sexual in nature. They are both unacceptable behavior, and there have been instances where physical assault to a womans body has been considered sexual assault when there were no sexual connotation. I would argue that instead of calling a kick to the groin sexual assault, that a kick to the groin of anyone of any gender is physical assault. If someone were to grab a man by the penis and stimulate him against his will, or attempt to, then you have a sexual assault.

as for your teacher and what happened to him, its generally a good idea to protect your soft spots when you are stepping into a sparring match. When you are sparring with people, there is a reasonable expectation that you are going to get hit in sensitive places. He should have been wearing a cup. The fact that he didnt was probably what they were laughing at and you are hairsplitting about it.

I dont think its funny when people hurt each other, but if im watching someone engage in sports or in controlled martial arts without protecting themselves, im not going to get outraged that they get hurt. They are trained to know better, it's part of the discipline.

Answer 7

I am a woman and I am a feminist, and trust me, I do not find this funny. At all. In any way. The people who laugh at this stuff are sick or at the very least, have a truly sick sense of humour. I agree with Troll Shark that TV is constantly turning this into comedy, so clearly it appeals to a lot of people. But I think we can all agree that there are a lot of sick people in the world. How anyone can find humour in that is beyond me. God, I'm a female and it makes me cringe.

Answer 8

You're right mathewssh, a lot of women do find some sort of guilty pleasure in a busted testicle spectacle. What I find even more perplexing though is why guys seem to get a chuckle out of it too - accompanied by a groan and a covering gesture to the crotch perhaps, but a chuckle nonetheless.

Those funny video shows of the '90s always reminded me of some sort of modern-day Roman circus, in which ball-beaten men were the equivalent of gladiators, existing for the amusement of the crowd.

What bothers me more though is the easy laugh that TV and movie writers go after. It's apparently too easy to resist, and for a lot of people, it never gets old. In this time where men must get their comeuppance in the media portrayal of the battle of the sexes, it's to be expected, but somebody needs to shave that joke, 'cause it's growin' a beard.

But that's just me and my tender balls talking.

Answer 9

this is wrong and I am also sorry you had to witness such disregard to pain and injustice. it is funny in slap stick comedy, not in a karate class! this young girl should of received punishment not encouragement from her mother. the women snickering in the audience are obviously immature, as I don't have a "package" but realize the pain is intense and this area is always a cheap shot, imo. then they justify the laughter by saying he should of been wearing proper protection from such actions, ridicules!

not all women are so unfeeling, guess my mama raised me right!

Answer 10

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