Does this theory about evolution's ideas make sense?

Question

In evolution there is general agreement that a matter turned into different matter (single cell-worm-fish-lizards-et... Now if the theory is based on these matters evolving on there own, where did that matter come from in the first place?.It can't have simply been there. Someone had to have made it who doesn't live under the laws of our universe. Because of this view point (and others), I find it hard to believe this theory and that there is not a Creator of some sort.

Answer 1

OK, now push your reasoning a bit further: where did the creator come from?
If you say that it always has been there, then I can say, then, why can't the energy that was behind the big bang not always been there as well, or instead?
Why is it that you can claim that "It can't have simply been there"?
Where does the energy of the big bang comes from? We don't know; it might always been there. And we can stop there; without having to require that a causal agent like a creator was there, otherwise, we may ask what created the creator, and then the answer is either "we don't know" or "it has always been there" or "it was created by another creator" for yet another level of recursive speculation.

All we know is that the universe is there now, and that it started 13 or so billion years ago. Everything else is only speculation. You can believe what you want, but it is NOT based on any scientific data.

Answer 2

Of course it doesn't make sense to someone who does not understand biology or even the meaning of the words "science", "theory" and "evolution." You make the all too frequent mistake of linking evolution with abiogenesis. There is no point in trying to explain these things when there is also the fundamental deficiency in critical thinking. You are basically saying that anything outside of your understanding must be because of magic. And, even if millions of scientists have studied and discovered the fundamental basis of how life works, it still must be wrong, all because you don't understand it. This doesn't mean you can't be correct. Maybe there is some all powerful, supernatural voyeur monitoring every action and thought that created the universe. However, that is not a useful explanation. It doesn't inform us of how to do anything except say, "It is the will of [insert deity]." For thousands of years, humans have attributed lighting as the work of gods, be it Zeus, Jupiter, Thor or simply "act of god." But, with actual effort at using reason and logical thinking, we have an understanding of what lightning is and can control it to some extent. Lightning strikes the Empire State Building more than 100 times a year but does no damage. Does this mean Zeus or Thor or God has been disarmed? How many other powers will we take away from invented gods as we learn more about the universe we live in? And yes, the Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection makes sense.

Answer 3

In all honesty it seems that you wish to find an easy way to pin the tail on the donkey some how, no matter what that entails. I am sorry to report that things are not that easy to comprehend and / or explain in real life.

First of all, your usage of the word "Universe" is incorrect. The term Universe applies to "everything out there around us...everything, no matter how far away it is. In fact, our Universe is so vast that we assume its present size to be infinite. For my purposes it is so fantasticly large that infinite might just as well be the term used. Scientists and Astronomers can "see" with modern telescopes objects in space out to distances of 13.7 Billion Light years, and with radio telescopes out to distances of 40 Billion Light Years.
That might as well be infinity if you ask me...

Anyhow, this seeding of the Earth with the various nutrients needed to form life happened when some asteroid crashed into Earth and was not incinerated as it passed through the Earth's atmosphere. That probably happened, because the Earth was struck by something pretty big a long, long time ago, and all the material that is now the Moon was blasted out into space where it eventually gathered together into a ball and solidified. So there is at least one possible situation in which something like that triggering event could have happened. Researchers have found at least six other huge impact craters on the Earth which are now fairly grown over by vegetation and eroded by rainfall and heating/freezing. Any of those could have been the particular event needed to seed the Earth with the proper nutrients.

Now a final question for you. Why spend so much energy doubting something this easy to understand? What good does it do, and what iner peace does it provide to you? My guess is it does nothing real for you, and you will always suspect that things happened the way we suggest. I recommend that you not worry about it, and learn as much as possible about the things that researchers have discovered. Gosh, that will take a lifetime to accomplish, and then you will know many, many things. This junk about what happened at the beginning, before the beginning, and what will happen after the end of it all - those are questions for "dogs willing to chase their own tails." No simple answers exist. The only thing out there is myth and conjecture.

Answer 4

When the Earth was forming it was kind of a gigantic chemistry set. There were almost 100 elements. They were subjected to heat and electricity. The elements formed molecules. The molecules interacted and eventually, a compound was formed that found out it could replicate itself. And it's been doing so ever since.

I believe it was during the 1960s that some scientists put some a bunch of the native elements into a beaker and sealed the beaker. Then they subjected the contents of the beaker to heat and electricity. After a while they noticed a kind of brown scum had formed on the inside of the beaker. They checked, and lo and behold, it was a bunch of organic compounds. True, it wasn't what one could call "life." But the Earth had millions of years to experiment. The scientists had only been at it a few days.

The idea that a spiritual deity would have any reason to create a mortal man and a material universe, and that it might do so, is the basis of the belief that Earth was the center of the universe, and that man was the only intelligent being in that universe.

Answer 5

Actually, matter has always been.
Consider that if a chunk of matter is present, it does nothing -and I mean nothing ... forever. That is a long time, but more importantly, I ask you to see that this chunk of matter will sit there and do nothing until it is acted upon by energy. Energy interaction with matter requires time. Thus, when matter is not experiencing work done by energy, it resides outside time.
The point is, there is nothing in the literature that says that matter was created at some moment - even the Judeo-Christian/Islamic Scriptures state that the universe was without form, NOT that it did not exist - tricky distinction, but check the text. Our laws of physics provide special rules for the artificial creation of matter from energy, and the interrelation of them, and with TIME.
You are viewing the universe through a window which embraces total "Causality", which is fine, so long as you keep fundamental matter out of the perception. The other aspect of this viewpoint is that, if you presume matter resides outside of time, it resolves a whole bunch of issues and misconceptions about fundamental physics.
Please consider taking another run at your question after you have digested this viewpoint.
By the way, if matter has existed outside of time, is it not more possible for anything else to reside outside of time???

Answer 6

In round figures, the Earth formed 4500 million years ago. It contained carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus, sulphur, iron, sodium and all the chemical elements that today are part of living beings. It was at least 500 million years before life as we understand it appeared and it might have been 750 million years or even a bit more.

All organisms on Earth are made up of chemical elements that have always been on Earth. Yes, the matter was simply there before life appeared.

Matter formed after the "big bang" when the Universe cooled enough. That was up to about 13700 million years ago, about three times the age of the Earth. At the time most of the matter that we would recognise was hydrogen with perhaps traces of helium. After millions of years clouds of hydrogen collapsed under their own gravity to form very large stars.

The nuclear reaction inside the stars burnt hydrogen to form heavier elements up to carbon. When the readily available hydrogen inside the middle of these stars was used up, the nuclear reactions stopped for a very short period. The stars then began to collapse rapidly under gravity. This produces an big increase in temperature, much higher than that produced by the nuclear reactions and the remnant matter inside the stellar core can then fuse rapidly to form heavier elements up to uranium etc. Some of these reaction absorb energy, some release energy. The temperature rises even further and causes the star to explode in a supernova, which throws the heavier metals into space.

The bigger a star is, the shorter its life. The really big ones might only have lasted a few million years.

After several generations of exploding stars there is an accumulation of heavier elements in local space, silicon, iron, sulphur and so forth in dust clouds mixed with unreacted hydrogen. These in turn can collapse under their own gravity to form new stars and if they are small, planets.

You are made of stuff which once was inside the core of a star.

Answer 7

Zahbudar and gugliamo are correct.

Despite Marie's wishes to jump aboard with a religion blog, her understanding of evolution is confused with natural selection. The two topics are not interchangeable.

To comprehend evolution we need to understand cells, genetic material, and nucleotides. It is at the gene level that many mutations may occur through radiation or randomly during duplication or recombination. Changing individual genes or genomes. It is easier to not try to understand the biological cellular and molecular levels of animals and plants and simply say 'god did it'.

How did amino acids come to exist? The production of amino acids and organic compounds appears to be very very easy on early Earth. The chemicals which exist naturally in the Universe lead to the creation of amino acids. 90 different amino acids have been found in meteorite samples. Earth only has 19. Organic compounds are easily formed by running an electric current (lightning) through methane, ammonia, hydrogen, and water. Or through hydrogen cyanide and ammonia and water. The early Earth atmosphere was rich in hydrogen leading to very favorable conditions for the production of life. Whether life began as a very natural process or was helped by meteorite or comet impacts, we don't have to fear it or believe it to be too mysterious and thus label it an act of God. It takes an effort to learn about how things work. It doesn't mean that God no longer exists. But if God did create the Universe, we don't have to be afraid of learning how he did it.

http://pubs.acs.org/cen/news/8241/8241notw11.html

http://www.colorado.edu/news/releases/2005/156.html

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aso/databank/entries/do53am.html

Answer 8

the matter came from the beginning of the universe, the big bang.
science says nothing about why matter appeared though. it can't.
if you think a Creator is the reason for the big bang, that's fine, but it's not science.
(saying that there was no creator is not science either. science says NOTHING about the creator, either way)

but that has NOTHING to do with evolution. evolution starts with earth, it starts with matter. how the earth and matter got there has nothing to do with evolution.

Answer 9

No one is ever going to find an answer to this. Both sides will argue forever and forever and forever.......

If there was no Creator where did the matter come from and if there was was no matter where did the Creator come from?

Answer 10

Youre mixing words that have scientific meaning, causing yourself even more confusion.

If you want to believe in a creator God, thats your perogative. However, evolution has no "general agreement that a matter turned into a different matter." Please either gain a proper understand of evolutionary theory, or dont butcher it. People dont like it when we butcher their religion - why do they come here and butcher our science?