human rights gone too far?

Question

sure, in some places there are few human rights. but in america and in the eu, its gotten insane. while watching the european RTL news, i noticed them saying that only one EU nation has a life prison sentence, and none have the death penalty. sounds good if youre planning to walk into a club to start knifing people in the stomach, or rape a 5 year old. the average max sentence is only 20 years.
in the US you can get released if they dont mirandize you. there are so many technicalities by which a guilty person can be set free, even if the evidence against him is overwhelming. some organisations goes so far as to blame the victim of the crime, or make excuses for the suspect. where is the moderation?
if someone commits murder, he/she should be handed over to the family that suffered the loss. that family should have the right to do whatever they want with him. even torture him for years and years.

Answer 1

That would be nice, and is a great idea, if you do not wish to maintain a civilized society.
execution has shown to be far more costly than life in prison, and woe be the day, when the cost to our government to destroy life becomes cheap.

Some dude, here are several innocent people who were executed and later to be found not guilty:
http://www.justicedenied.org/executed.htm
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?&did=2238
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/na/chi-0412090169dec09,0,7244555.story?coll=chi-news-hed
currently, DNA technology is showing that many many innocent people have been executed, prior to DNA identification becoming available.

Answer 2

Yudel, Jesus Christ man, Afghanistan is trying to legalize raping women. I'm all for cultural relativism up to a point, but in a place where there has been a long history of denying women basic human rights, this looks very much like another symptom to a far bigger disease. The only way to respect Afghanistani culture while at the same time ensuring that women who feel abused have some method of recourse from their situation is to educate. Set up a network of human rights resources like planned parenthood or the center for battered women and let the women come to it of their own volition. You can't enforce rape laws any more than you can enforce murder or stealing laws, but at least the victims (if they do perceive themselves as such) have a safe haven if they so choose. They might have to sneak around to actually get that sort of protection, of course, which is why it may be necessary to go underground. And I'll tell ya what, if these centers don't gain any proponents or refugees, then I'll concede the point to you that rape is A-OK from an Afghanistani woman's perspective! As of the moment, however, I'm, ehhhh, not so convinced.

Answer 3

Personally I think that a person convicted of a crime should be put on TV and all stations must show him/her being executed for his/her crime in the same exact manner he committed the crime. If they killed someone by shooting them in the side, then the leg, then the head, have sharpshooters do the same to them in exactly the same way and manner, with the same size gun. People frown on the death penalty until someone they love is gunned down. In my opinion if there was still a death penalty(that didn't take forty thousand appeals)they should televise the ugly way a person convicted of such a crime dies on TV and pre-empt all other programs so that you either watch or don't, but cannot watch any other programs until the convict has quit twitching. You know that they will not be able to do this crime again.

Answer 4

I concure. If the death penalty is not a deterrent than why do all these murders always appeal and appeal until the switch is flipped. Oh yeah, common sense, people dont want to die. Lessing sentences makes everything relative.

Chi Guy,

Please cite one US case where an executed man was later proven innocent (proven, not speculation by someone). You can't because it's never happened, every time they try to bring in DNA evidence from old cases from before it was avalable - it always, 100% of the time, never fals prooves that they were guilty.

We have a good court system based on reasonable doubt. By the time you get through all the appeals and reviews if someone is getting the dealth penalty - they are guilty.

Answer 5

Understand the premise. Unfortunately, too many innocent people are sent to death row. If you can guarantee that not one innocent person would be sentenced with the death penalty, fewer people would be against it. Not to mention, life in a maximum security prison isn't as fun as people seem to believe.

Answer 6

In one area it has went almost backwards. Abortion. Clinton vetoed the partial birth abortion ban twice. There are still 1.37 million abortions in the US annually and 43 million worldwide annually. These are actual human beings we are killing. Add the numbers, and Stalin and Hilter combined couldnt compare to this death toll.

Answer 7

One extreme does not subplant another. All cases are decided on their own merits. You are mixing human rights up with civil rights. the former is expected, the latter is legislated.

Answer 8

Sounds like the Native American way to me, handing them over to the ones who were wronged. I mean in simpler days it wouldve been good I agree, but in todays society it kindof contradicts itself dont you think? If someone murders my sister and I murder them, arent I able to be convicted of murdering now, and sent to his family do what they please with me?

Answer 9

there's no such thing as human rights going to far, unless you start to cause harm to the victim of the crime. we don't need any more executions, fear and intolerance.