A few of the relatives back home have been on the telly having their say. Auntie Phil was as usual spouting off, but one thing she said did make me wonder, She said that Jane Tanner had seen a man carrying Madeleine away wrapped in a blanket!!!! She didn't say "child" she definitely said "Madeleine" - Now if thats true (not) then why didn't Jane run after the man?
Also there was an uncle who was pleading for the public to carrying on supporting Kate and Gerry, and had the cheek to mention the word "financially"
2007-09-07
21:25:22
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EDIT _ Jonathan if you have better things to do with your life, why bother even clicking on my question?
2007-09-07
21:31:27 ·
update #1
Far Shissed - or whatever you are called, what planet are you living on for Goodness sake? The parents ARE suspects!
2007-09-07
21:33:34 ·
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I cannot understand some of these answers! Who are you supporting here, the small girl that could be dead or the suspects?
2007-09-07
21:37:35 ·
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Far Shissed - so I am stupid am I? and the fact that my user name is Miss essex means what exactly? Grow up! you just insult me because you have nothing relevant to say.
2007-09-07
21:43:17 ·
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that was observant of you-why would she watch someone going away with maddie,and not do anything at the time?
2007-09-07 21:38:54
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answered by I dont know 4
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It is my feeling as a parent that many issues keep popping up which actually cloud the real problem which is simple, "IS MADDY STILL ALIVE?"
Of course we expect the McCann's UK based relatives to pleade their innocence anyone would, lets face it even victims of domestic violence keep supporting and denying what's happening to them and it also seems to me that people go through a set process when they grieve, DENIAL no this isn't a river in Africa all vicitms of such a situation go through this first stage including it would seem Gerry, ANGER which is being directed at the Portuguese Police, BARGAINING "Please bring Maddie back we will do anything if you will," DEPRESSION this stage is not yet evident in most who are associated with the case with the exception of maybe Kate herself, ACCEPTANCE okay I am now in a position to deal with the outcome and accept what has happened.
The idea that the police are conspiring to close the case with an "easy option" is ludicrous.
As time goes on more and more evidence will point at Gerry and Kate and it will become more evident that one of them killed this child, maybe accidently.
As for the time line of events that night, come on who hasn't allowed their child to go to the shops nearbye on their own, or walk to school or been to Butlins where the Chalet Patrol go around and contact parents if they hear anything?
Lets be candid in all the years Butlins has been open there have only been two reported cases of incident, a little girl was abducted from Ayr but later was found and it was decided she just wandered off and then there was the incident of the child who slipped through the cot under the frame at the back and died subsequently and we can all say this may well have happened even if the family/parents had been in the adjoining room.
Children are kidnapped more often than we would care to imagine, the little girl from her bath no one accussed the parents of being negligent then but she was taken and raped by a paedophile.
In the case of Jane Tanner who stated she saw a child being carried in the arms of a dark haired man at around 21:15 this is again ludicrous and doesnt fit with the overall time line as if this was true then how did her friend Matthew Oldfield who alleges to have seen the children all intact at approximately 21:45.
Given that the Portuguese Police are now disputing the time line and the accuracy of events and are saying that Matthew Oldfield didn't actually see the children and Maddie in particular this casts doubt on ALL parties reports as they all seem a little doubtful and also the fact that the staff state clearly that no one left the table except one man. The shutters being up or down, the door being open a little, the window being ajar, are all just slight changes to stories all of which cast further doubt over the accuracy or indeed if they are true or just a lead by the people involved to deflect the authorities toward the idea she was kidnapped.
Increasingly it looks like a cover up these people either know exactly what happened or they have been told and are convering for Kate.
It is more and more likely that Kate accidently killed the child or maybe discovered her dead body when she checked at 22:00 and rather than face the prospect of being arressted for possible child neglect, I believe the laws in Portugal are quite specific and strict about what consitutes Child Neglect, she paniicked and hid the body in the appartment and then raised the alarm. She may even have accidently killed the child and again panicked but specualtion is nothing more than that. Without hard evidence this case will continue to linger on for a long time, where is the body if, God forbid, she is dead or if not where is Maddie some one must have a suspicion of where she is.
I also believe the idea that the McCanns' were watched the whole time after the incident is again quite foolish as people can sneak out and things could have been hidden at that stage.
There must be some complicit covering up by others in the group.
This is the time line page if anyone would like to look.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=480632&in_page_id=1770&ICO=NEWS&ICL=TOPART
2007-09-07 22:16:25
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answered by Paul D 2
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I watched that, and Kate McCann's mother made herself look ridiculous. She said 'someone in the police department or close to this investigation has planted DNA'. How? The Portuguese police didn't find it, the British police did. The Portuguese police didn't get it until this week. Why do something that could be so easily found out like that? I agree with what you say about Jane Tanner, if she had seen Madeleine, why not call the police or immediately run after him? I agree with you about the uncle too, he's got more front than Blackpool. Money isn't important here, it's what really happened to Madeleine that should be his main concern; not trying to protest his family's innocence and attempting to wheedle more money out of people. These relatives weren't 'allowed' to talk about the case before, but now Kate has been made a suspect, they are all queuing up to have their say. It's all very strange.
2007-09-07 22:55:41
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answered by Anonymous
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All I know is that a wee little girl is missing as a result of two supposed intelligent doctors choosing to leave three of their babies alone while they had a meal and they are wealthy enough to have paid for someone to babysit them for a short while, they were wealthy to begin with and yet get all this attention from rich stars who are vouching for them, Gerry laps up the attention, choosing to spend time writing blogs, if it were me I'd be feeling very guilty and in a hell of a state, i certainly wouldn't want to write blogs or pose for the cameras, whatever has happened to Maddy they are half responsible, which British media have conveniently ignored, they are doctors so they can't possibly have done any wrongdoing, NOT! If I were a poor possibly single mum and my child got kidnapped out of no fault of my own, e.g I'm on the beach turn for a split and my child has vanished, I wouldn't get hardly any media attention, no help from stars like Beckham and I'd be accused of not watching my child adequately, yet these seem to be treated like they are wonderful no matter what, its disgusting, I have no sympathy for them whatsoever, only for Maddy who by some miracle will hopefully be returned safe and sound but I'm doubtful, the relatives should kept quiet if they have any common sense as if they are proved guilty by adequate evidence they are going to look like utter Wally's!
2007-09-07 22:53:54
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answered by Rainbowz 6
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if the child was wrapped in a blanket how do they know it was poor madeline? How did someone manage to get in the hotel room and take her without being seen by hotel staff? surely someone would see a stranger remove the child from the hotel? it doesn't add up!!! they do say that murderers like the limelight, just look at ian huntley!! their behaviour throughout has been very strange. why would 2 well educated people leave 3 young children alone in a hotel room??? holidays are about spending time with your family, including your children, you dont go to a strange country, leave your children in a hotel room and then go out for dinner, hopeing they will be alright, they are guilty of neglect at least!! it will be interesting to see how all this unfolds. now i have had my say i shall comment no further. They should pay back every single penny they have earnt from the fund aswell!!!
2007-09-07 22:03:34
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answered by stormchaser 3
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Jane Tanner and her partner also hired a rent car after Madeleine went missing, along with a child car-seat.
A rent car hired by the McCann's carried blood specks, apparently Madeleine's blood..
Jane Tanner and her partner had already been under suspicion by the Police and they decribed it as 'rediculous'
2007-09-08 00:05:53
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answered by Anonymous
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My opinion is that the relatives find the lack of information and the snail pace of the police investigation irritating. It is only natural to voice your anger. I don't quite know why there is some resentment against the relatives. Of all people I would think they would definitely have Madeleine's interest at heart. They seem to be trying to help. One would not expect anything else from decent human beings. That is my opinion anyway. I respect everyone elses opinion too.
2007-09-08 02:20:01
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answered by Modern Man 4
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far shissed - Essex girl has asked a question - why didn't Jane run after the man, she claims she saw, carrying Madeleine wrapped in a blanket??
Do you have an answer?? or are you using the questions to start verbally insulting people?
My answer: She didnt run after the man, because they knew she was to be taken... (speculation of course...)
2007-09-07 22:09:40
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answered by Anonymous
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Notice they all say the word LUDICROUS?
All of them. Makes you wonder if they chose that word to keep up their denial and look united.
What got me was them all saying that the PJ should be out looking for Madeleine, not wasting time interviewing the McCanns.
Well excuse me, but which part of they are guilty of neglect to say the least don't they understand?
The McCanns have lied and fabricated the scenario of that night and I don't believe the McCanns one bit.
And so, it seems, neither do the PJ.
2007-09-07 21:57:59
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answered by Como Lewis (deceased) 3
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Jane Tanner was too busy checking on her own child which she had left alone half that evening.
EDIT: Russell O'Brien and Jane Tanner left their chilren alone that night but spent most of the night away from the restaurant as their 3 year old child had been vomiting
EDIT: 'Jeremy Wilkins, has given a deposition that does not support her evidence. He knew Mr McCann because he played tennis with him, and was walking his eight-month-old son in the night air when the drama unfolded...He says that he met Mr McCann, who had come out of his apartment at 9.05pm, and had a word with him. Soon after that Jane Tanner would have crossed paths with Mr Wilkins and his baby.... Mr Wilkins says he saw no man carrying a child or Jane Tanner herself. "It was a very narrow path and I think it would have been almost impossible for anyone to walk by without me noticing," he said '
Note that Tanner was one of the 'Tapas 9' who left their children while they went out drinking and eating, and Mr Wilkins wasnt. He seems to be one of the few McCann friends who understood his responsiblities as a parent.
Which account do you believe ?
EDIT: Joss K - you got it, spot on !
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=474656&in_page_id=1770
2007-09-07 21:42:58
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answered by 17pdr 4
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The family can say all they want, but they weren't there that night. Kate and Gerry are the only ones who can say for sure what happened.
They should pay back every single penny of that fund.
2007-09-07 21:58:46
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answered by dreaming_angel1983 5
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