Which is more unnatural: homosexuality or pedophilia?

Question

furthermore, which will cause humanity the most moral decay?
and is there anything we can do to emend this?

Answer 1

The wages of sin is dealth, but don't take my word for it!

Answer 2

The word "unnatural" is irrelevant in this question, but the main difference is of course that pedophilia (if carried out) has a victim, whereas (consenting) homosexuality has not.

"Moral decay" is something that lies entirely in your own mind, and if you want to emend those emotions in your mind, I think the first step should be acceptance. Of course I don't mean the society should accept any sexual deeds that clearly harm others (like pedophilia and all kinds of sexual violence and compulsion, whether hetero- or homosexual), but you will find much more peace in your mind (and also find much better solutions to the problems for the criminals, victims and society generally) if you first accept the persons unconditionally as persons, and then find a skillful way to help them stop misusing their sexuality.

Answer 3

Since homosexuality is a lifestyle choice and pedophilia is an illness, I fail to see the point of your question.
Homosexuals are no threat to anyone, after all when did you ever hear of them breeding faster than heterosexuals (or at all for that matter)? Heterosexuality has to remain the dominant mode for humanity to continue and homosexuality is just a blip on the radar. Pedophilia, on the other hand, is only a threat if we do not take responsibility as a society for finding out the reasons and causes for it and then create treatments for the people who suffer, the same as with any illness.
A society that shuns its responsibility by rejecting the parts that don't conform is surely doomed to failure and so I put forward the view that discrimination is the biggest cause of moral decay because this allows for ignorance.

Answer 4

it would depend on your interpretation of the term "unnatural". Homosexual sexual relations are between two consenting adults. (not including rape) Pedophilia is an act of force and power between an adult and a child. The adult involved knows that there is a difference in power, strength and experience, and the difference is all on the adults side.
Two consenting adults who are attracted to each other is natural. I admit that the sexual relations of two individuals of the same sex will not produce offspring, but they are just having fun. The heterosexual sex I have is not to produce offspring. I am just having fun.
Having sexual relations of any sort between an adult and a child is unnatural. The child does not have desire. The child does not have the hormones required to feel lust. Sexual relations between an adult and a child is on the same par as sex between an adult and an animal.
A sheep has about the same amount of knowledge about sexual relations as a small child.
The morality issue is difficult. Define moral decay. Trusty wiki has this to say "Morals are standards which sustain humanity; moral decay would be the reduction and/or rejection of those time proven standards". I dont think people having consentual sexual relationships will effect the standards which sustain humanity. If people were to become accepting of forced sex with children, I think that the moral standards of humanity will be weakened.
To amend something is to make it right. I dont see anything wrong with homosexuality so I see no wrong to be amended. I have spoken about why I consider pedophilia to be wrong. I think that people are just as capable heinous acts as they are capable of brilliance. I do not think it is possible to stop people before they develop evil tendencies. I think that pedophiles should be studied while they serve their lifelong sentences. Studying these individuals may help to detect others with the same desires in order to stop them.
I think that homosexuality and pedophilia are completely different issues. The key issue i think is consent. Homosexuality is consentual. Pedophilia isnt.

Answer 5

Why are you putting the two in the same sentence and trying to make a direct comparrison?
You might as well say 'what is more unnatural: heterosexuality or pedophilia?'

Homosexuality harms no one... homosexuality is not an action, it is way of being, it is the way somebody is, like being white, or black, or of asian origin...
A homosexual action is a choice, and takes place between 2 consenting adults and harms no one (except, apparently, it offends homophobes, who obviously don't have fullfilled or happy lives, or they would have more interesting things to do with their lives other than to be obsessed with gays - one wonders why they are so obsessed with gays!).

Pedophilia, however, is an attack on a vulnerable child. It deeply harms the child in many ways. The child will then have to carry this pain through the rest of their life with them. It is a heinous crime and is illegal in most societies and cultures (if not all) for good reason: To protect vulnerable children who are too young to defend themselves and too young to understand such acts.

Answer 6

I do not believe that this two things can be used in one sentence.
Doing that shows disrespect to people who are homosexual, and I do not believe that this is a useful attitude in that case.
Pedophilia is a crime as kids are molested against their will and it harms them deeply. They often carry that with them for the rest of their life. The duty of an adult is to protect a child.
I believe that the most moral decay which will effect humanity is that so many people are totally unable to put themselves into another persons shoes, so they are utterly unable to understand another persons view point. This will and already does cause the most moral decay for humanity.

Answer 7

Always a challenging question in philosophy given the history of pederasty for many of the most prominent Greek philosophers. I always get a chuckle on this issue.

Many are fans of the 'original' fans like Plato, Aristotle, etc. All the while forgetting that these philosophers kept male sexual relations, used male prostitutes and also had intimate sexual encounters with very young men.

It's even more amusing when the historical record seems to be that many philosophers like Plato, Sartre, Wittgenstein, Dworkin, de Beauvioir and Focault, to name a few, are identified as being gay.

The next time you find yourself discussing Plato, you might want to read up on some of the reported activities that the dude was involved in back in the day.

Answer 8

Since both types of behaviour have been observed in many different species, it may be more correct to ask which is more 'uncommon', rather than 'unnatural'. That being the case, pedophilia is far less common, but that may also be because so many societies place a high value on youth.

As for the 'moral decay' issue.......... Morals are a -very- slippery term that is highly dependent on the cultural norms within which you are working.

Doug

Answer 9

Both are perfectly natural actions. However, the fact that something is natural does not make it "moral" (whatever that means) by todays standards. I happen to believe pedophilia is one of the worst crimes a person can commit.
On a personal note, blaming "moral decay" on homosexuality is pure cowardice. You really want to make the lot of humanity better? Start by opening your eyes to the suffering YOU create, and do something to emend it.

Answer 10

I'm really shocked that this question is even asked. Pedophilia of course. There is something very sick whenever a child is the target of such a crime.

Answer 11

Pedophilia of course.
The only way we can amend this is if we round up all the pedophiles and give them the death sentence in my opinion.