Were Wehmarcht generals much talented than those from SS?

Question

Esp. we are talking about Guderian, Rommel, Munstein etc. How about the SS, who can we think of ?

Answer 1

When it comes to 'leadership' it can be a cr^p-shoot. History informs us that societies with a higher level & encouragement of learning tend to produce better Armies. Among the better armies as of 1800 were Prussians/Germans, British, American, France, Russia, Spain, Etc - - - -
The fact that a majority of Wehrmarcht Generals supported Hitler reveals much about the ir judgement and ability.
SS Officers were recruited from the Middle Class - - - in the strict Hiearchy of the German Military Tradition - - -A Lieutenant and maybe a Captain might be Middle Class, but you would never be more than an honorary Colonel and never a General or Marshall.

SS Officers were youths into the twenties who mostly spent the 20s and 30s hungry for adavncement & a profession of violence & peace keeping is more enticing to the young. Denied entry into the Wehrmarcht, even after Hitler's accension to Power - - - lean hungry ambitious middle class kids were barred from playing in the Big Playground. So Heinrich Himmler built his own Playground. Too tired to spew names yet will cut & paste' at the end, but the SS produced some truly good tough aggressive Generals. But then again as I said Leadership is a c shoot - - - - (ah, Sepp Dietrich that's the one, probably mispelled, he did not start outr brilliant but as war progressed Sepp progressed how many Generals in any service actually improve?

(aside from Garfield the unsung General)

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/GERhimmler.htm

http://www.germaniainternational.com/waffenss4.html
""Here is a rare official letter from SS-Obergruppenführer (Lt. General) Oswald Pohl, the administrative chief of the SS to Richard Hildebrandt. SS-Obergruppenführer (General) Pohl, born in 1892 and officially murdered in 1951, was the head of the WVha economic office of the SS. He was born in Duisburg and was a naval officer in WWI. He joined the Nazi Party in 1929 and became an SA officer 10 years later, mostly because he was a close personal friend of Reichsführer Heinrich Himmler. He was appointed Minister Director from 1942 to 1945. He was a general in the Waffen-SS and was in charge of all concentration camps and SS works projects. Richard Hildebrandt, was a general in the Waffen-SS and Chief of the Central Office of Race and Resettlement (RuSHA) before becoming a general officer. He was wrongfully executed after a mock trial in 1952. The letter is on Oswald Pohl’s stationery and dated 25. Januar 1938 and is hand signed with a “Heil Hitler!” in closing. It basically is a thank-you letter to Hildebrandt for his part in providing an Italian tour for Pohl and other comrades and it speaks of there being another return trip and he hopes that others may have the same enormous pleasurable time. He sends cordial and comradely greeting. Pohl signatures are rare and being on official stationary makes it even more desirable. This is on very thin linen paper and is in really good shape with 1-inch-long nick or tear at the bottom (does not detract at all). It measures 11 x 8 1/4 inches. The scribble at the top is most likely Hildebrandt’s “received” mark done in red or orange pencil. This is a very important historical document from the highest echelons of the Allgemeine-SS and is an important archival treasure. ""

http://www.geocities.com/wolfram55/dietrich.html
""5.40: Dietrich appointed as General der Waffen-SS.

5.7.40: Ritterkreuz des Eisernes Kreuzes, as Kommandeur der Leibstandarte.

4.41: 'Operation Marita', invasion of Yugoslavia and Greece. Dietrich still commands the Leibstandarte.

6.6.41: 'Operation Barbarossa'

31.12.41: Eichenlaub to his Ritterkreuz.

16.3.43: Dietrich leaves the Leibstandarte, leaves command to SS-Brigadeführer Theodor Wisch, is awarded Schwertern to his Ritterkreuz same day.

1944: Dietrich commands I. SS-Panzerkorps in Normandy.

1.8.44: Dietrich appointed SS-Oberstgruppenführer und Generaloberst der Waffen-SS, he also received the unique honorific title of Panzer Generaloberst der Waffen-SS.

6.8.44: Brillanten to his Ritterkreuz, as Kommandeur von I. SS-Panzerkorps.

9.44: Receives command of VI. Panzerarmee, formed out of the remains of VII. Panzerarmee.

16.12.44: Ardennes-offensive; Leibstandarte commanded by SS-Brigadeführer Wilhelm Mohnke.

31.1.45: VI. Panzerarmee renamed VI. SS-Panzerarmee.

8.5.45: Josef 'Sepp' Dietrich, together with his wife, surrenders to Patton.

12.46: Dachau trials, Dietrich gets 25 years.

10.55: Dietrich is finally freed from prison, but is charged again with the murder of six S.A. members during the night of the long knives, for which he gets another 18 months in prison.

2.59: Because of health-problems; Dietrich is released from prison, and settles in Ludwingsburg, where he is active in the HIAG, a support-organisation for former Waffen-SS soldiers.

21.4.66 Dietrich dies of a heart attack, he was 74 years old. Over 6.000 former Waffen-SS soldiers attended his funeral, organized by Wilhelm Brittich.""

Peace

Answer 2

The Wehrmacht typically had better generals. However, as the war progressed, the SS evolved into a well trained, elite combat force. It's leadership improved along with everything else. So by the end of the war, the SS was almost as well commanded as the Wehrmacht.

However it is important to note that the SS never attained the scale of the army, so did not have the same number of high ranking officers, and the SS was still nominally under overall command of the Army.

Answer 3

Wehrmacht official were highly professional, often superior to the same levels of Royal Army. So, especially at the beginning of the war , they performed much better. They had a better training during the thirties, only aimed to defence of their country, and prepared some good strategy too. In acting, at least in the first 2 years, they aimed on strateic porpoises, with not heavy political invluence. SS officials, were high nazi party leaders, and often they learned militar tactic "In Practicing".... Thi do not mean that some of them were also military talented, but they were not focoused on of the strategic and militar matters....

Answer 4

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