I just asked this in the 'other society and culture' section, and got a lot of answers where people thought the school was right in doing so. I wanted to ask it here as well to see how the responces would differ.
She got kicked out for wearing heels and a skirt. The heels were dress-code safe, as was the skirt. The dress code says nothing about males wearing skirts or heels, however, but even if it did I wouldn't think the rule should apply to her.
Her clothes weren't distracting or slutty in any way, either. She looked very classy, actually.
Do you think its right or wrong that she got kicked out? Why?
2007-09-07 15:51:45 · 24 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Cultures & Groups ➔ Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender
ThePâ¢: Yes, I do realize that. But if she thinks of herself as female, I will too.
2007-09-07 15:59:48 · update #1
B: Since when does dressing for school in the morning become a political statement?
2007-09-07 16:03:37 · update #2
randyvsfire: She's a Junior. Don't know if that makes a difference though. lol
2007-09-07 16:13:08 · update #3
A rabbi, a priest and a transvestite go into a bar. The rabbi says "Oui Vey my shlackens and bagels are in my other yamulke!" The transvestite replies "you think you got problems I just got kicked out of school". The priest screams "Well I just spilled holy water all over myself" Hope you enjoyed that one its my favorite
2007-09-07 17:48:08 · answer #1 · answered by anitasdame 3 · 0⤊ 2⤋
If the dress code did not stipulate that only females wear skirts and only males wear pants, then I could see them evicting the cross dresser. But if there is no such stipulation, then that person has an excellent basis for a lawsuit based on discrimination against a minority....wonder if the ACLU has heard about this one.
Frankly, I am heartily sick of people imposing their ideas of what is or is not correct in matters that affect no one but the individual. Personal freedom is fading fast in this country, and I am glad I will not live to see it take it's last gasp.
2007-09-07 16:00:32 · answer #2 · answered by essentiallysolo 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
In my opinion, I believe that the school is in the wrong. First, lets just assume she is around the age of 11-13 which is around the typical age of finding ones true sexuality. The educational institution should have called her parents in and her in for a conference, to get a better understanding of the situation. They only embarrassed her, and not to mention, scared her emotionally. Thats not to mention the fact of the loss of study for the day.
She is entitled to an education, granted yes she went to school dressed in the "wrong gender appropriate" clothing, however, I believe they went about it all wrong. The institution, probably dosnt have a protocol for this type of situation and they handled it they way they thought was right. I bet that this will soon become a protocol that is added soon, and hopefully schools will start to handle this type of situation a bit mor rationally.
As for the girl in this predicement, I applaude her for being herself, and stepping up to show that repression is the norm for this situation. This is not only the norm in society but also in the home. I speak from personal expirience..
2007-09-07 16:08:09 · answer #3 · answered by randyvsfire 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The school was wrong! That's so messed up. It depresses me how people act towards each other. So judgmental! I would like to know what the hell is wrong with dressing the way you want. Girls are allowed to wear male clothes if thats what they feel comfortable in. Why not the other way around. If she considers herself a female, then she is a female. Gah! I hate people who judge others.
2007-09-07 16:38:19 · answer #4 · answered by Frozen 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
School is for learning, not making political statements. Dress codes clearly state that clothes should not be distracting in any manner. Sorry, but a guy wearing girls' clothing is distracting. End of story. If it weren't a novelty, i.e. distracting, then you wouldn't even think it was interesting enough to ask a question about it.
2007-09-07 16:01:10 · answer #5 · answered by B 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
If this is a public school, she might have a legal case.
A precedent was set a while ago in the case of a student called "Pat Doe" in the court records (name withheld because she was a minor). The court ruled that it was sexual discrimination to have different dress codes for different students, so as long as her clothing was within the rules set for women's clothing it was acceptable.
2007-09-07 15:59:50 · answer #6 · answered by Mike 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The school was wrong. As long as girls can wear jeans and pants and shirts the same as males, it should be vice versa. Most students probably already know the feelings of this student. Being comfortable will only enhance his learning experience. He should sue the district. Besides what if he came to school wearing a kilt?
2007-09-07 15:58:54 · answer #7 · answered by Ruairi 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Wrong, especially since she took the time to make her outfit dress code safe. To me, saying she couldn't wear the outfit is like kicking out the bio guys for wearing jeans.
2007-09-07 15:58:09 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Same answer I gave you before. I don't think it was right, but I bet the school can justify it by using the dress code. I'm willing to bet you dress code says something about gender appropriate clothing. If it doesn't, it will soon - gauranteed.
2007-09-07 15:57:52 · answer #9 · answered by Cheese Fairy - Mummified 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
- first i do not agree with cross-dressing. BUT to do so IS NOT a crime therefore why such a harsh punishment.
- i do not believe that your local dress code currently stipulates that only girls can wear skirts and heals. so, he/she should've been left alone.
- the constitution guarantees our feee speech rights and dress or clothing are protected. for example, people have the contitutional right to wear the u.s. flag as a diaper without punative action being taken against them. likewise people can wear clothing with ani-war slogans on them, etc. there is absolutely no difference between the right to express your displeasure in some political issue via your clothing than expressing some of your other views via your clothing.
- i learned in an honors level history of the u.s. constitution course that we cannot wear clothing to school, for instance, which will encourage others to drink alcohol, smoke weed, or commit acts of violence against others. a male wearing a dress or skirt is not causing undue harm to anyone in his school. it is his choice and is guaranteed in the constitution.
- example: some muslim men wear a long flowing, loose fitting garment called a thobe; it looks like a straight a-line dress to most westerners. these men are not gay or transvestite or anything and they are not barred from entering places of business, schools, or government facilities, or anything. now what is the difference between the two? answer: not much. others can perceive our attire to mean what they want to.
- example: some girls wear extremely baggy pants, and "wife-beater" tee-shirts like guys. some are lesbian, some are bisexual, while others are totally straight. they are also not barred from businesses, schools, or government facilities. so how can anyone justify barring this person from his/ her school?
- check out the constitution amendment 14, section 1 this section contains one of our equal protection clauses. "No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunitities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
- check out amendment 4's "The right of the people to be secure in their persons....." and amendment 5's ".....nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law....".
- amnendment 9 reads as follows: " The enumeration in the of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
- these are our constitutional guarantees homosexual people are not a protected minority group but they still have definite legal rights. this person can wear what he/she wants so long as it's safe and within the dress code.
- don't be surprised if your school or local schoolboard enacts a district wide school uniform policy for next school year which would/ could effectively block any and all cross-dressing.
2007-09-07 16:51:09 · answer #10 · answered by vanessa 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋