There was a question here the other day "Who was the first Club team in North America to have ever beat the Soviets?"
What is the correct answer?
One person is saying the Philadelphia Flyers, one person is saying the Winnipeg Jets, and a Soviet Website is claiming the Buffalo Sabres? Which is true?
2007-09-07 06:22:51 · 5 answers · asked by Canadian Biology Man 4 in Sports ➔ Hockey
The original question was vague and left open for interpretation. Did they mean the Soviet National Team? Did they mean ANY Soviet team?
The Buffalo Sabres were the first North American team to beat a Soviet based team when they crushed Krylja Sovetov 12-6 on January 4, 1976
The Philadelphia Flyers became the first North American team to beat a Soviet powerhouse when a week later they beat CSKA Moskva 4-1 (January 11, 1976)
Two years later, on January 5, 1978, the Winnipeg Jets of the WHA beat the Soviet National Team at the Izsvestia Tournament. This game should be asterisked as the Russian National team was without Tretiak, Maltsev, Mikhailov, Kharlamov, and Vasiliev.
In the early 1960s, the IIHF passed a resolution that prevented countries from sending club teams to the World Championships (The 1961 Trail Smoke Eaters for example). CSKA Moskva was for all intents and purposes was the Soviet National Team. Because they were not allowed to compete in tournaments as such, they would drop 5 or 6 of their worst players and take the best players from other squads (Traktor Chelyabinsk was Sergei Makarov;s original team, Myshkin's original team was Krylja Sovetov, etc).
So, to put things in perspective. The Philadelphia Flyers in 1976 beat a better Russian team than the Winnipeg Jets beat in 1978.
If the asker was looking for the first North American club to beat the Soviet National Team, technically, Winnipeg was the first to do so.
If he was looking for the first North American club to beat the Soviets, technically, Buffalo was the first to do so.
But, if we take technicalities aside.............the Philadelphia Flyers were the first team to beat a team of elite Soviet players when they scared them out of the spectrum.
For CME
The Buffalo Sabres beat the Soviet Wings (aka Krylja Sovetov), along with CSKA Moskva and Dynamo Moskva, one of three Moscow based teams in the Soviet Elite Division in the 70s
The Philadelphia Flyers beat the Central Red Army (aka CSKA Moskva)
The Winnipeg Jets beat the Soviet National Team, but the Soviet National Team they beat was without many of it's stars as CSKA Moskva was playing at the Spengler that year.
2007-09-07 06:29:04 · answer #1 · answered by Like I'm Telling You Who I A 7 · 7⤊ 1⤋
Couldn't we go back to the Trail Smoke-eaters or Whitby Dunlops for that? I mean they won the Olympic gold beating the Soviets along the way and they were North American clubs.
2007-09-07 15:58:57 · answer #2 · answered by PuckDat 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
1955 Team Canada 5-0 over CCCP.
Russia's first loss ever was to the Czechoslovkia in 1954 5-3 in Moscow.
2007-09-07 18:26:09 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Just what Like I'm Telling You said. Had he said Soviet National Team, which he didn't, then yes, Winnipeg would have been correct.
Here is the question you are referring to-
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AqfxRto0AZqwfffUDF_SGnPty6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20070904114109AAAWA5y&show=7#profile-info-GwNdxDJZaa
2007-09-07 14:11:07 · answer #4 · answered by Bob Loblaw 7 · 3⤊ 0⤋
"like i'm telling you" I'm lost in the translation here, help me out.
The team Philly beat, was the Red Army team?
The team the Jets beat was Dynamo?
And Sabres beat Kiev?
I had a few things to do since then, and forgot who was who.
2007-09-07 14:22:49 · answer #5 · answered by cme 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋