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I am associated with a group of people who bought land East of Portland, OR. The 50 acres are on a dirt road, with no electricity or water. Mostly for personal camping and party use, the regulations from the government are that no permanent structures can be built. There are a couple geodesic domes. One of the people has brought in a thousand gallon water tank, with the idea of filling it with snow run off and rainwater, to help water the trees (Ponderosas) that live up there. ON A SHOESTRING BUDGET, how do we keep the filled tank from freezing and bursting during the extended 0c wintertime? Burying the tank is not a option (rocky soil, no backhoe). Electricity, if needed, would be solar panel/deep cell battery. We could enclose the tank in a simple structure if needed.

2007-09-06 14:32:25 · 5 answers · asked by Michael R 3 in Home & Garden Other - Home & Garden

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I don't know how cold it gets in OR. so I don't know if this will work or not. First thing is paint the tank black. Build that simple structure you were talking about. Have the doors face south and leave them open in the day and close them at night.
Use the solar panel and battery with a timer to power a water fountain pump and circulate the water at night.

2007-09-06 15:12:24 · answer #1 · answered by Michael C 5 · 0 1

Simple. Drain the tank during the winter.
1.You won't have to water any trees in the winter. You don't need that water then.
2. You can't afford to heat the water, and solar heating is dependent on the sun and certainly no guarantee of not having your tank and pipe bursting.

Drain the tank and the water out of the piping. Maybe use some RV/ Marine antifreeze in some of the smaller lines if you can't get all the water out, will keep them from bursting also.

That will be the most sensible and safest, besides there will be plenty of runoff and rain in the spring. If you can't dig or drill a well, why not at least try to drive a well point. Then you could atleast get some water while the tank was empty. You could even be able to lift the water with an old fashioned hand pump just like old times. http://weather.nmsu.edu/hydrology/wellpoint.htm

2007-09-06 22:11:32 · answer #2 · answered by wise1 5 · 1 1

I say let the trees do their own thing. They obviously had enough water to grow as it is, right? Either that or leave the tank empty in winter and start filling it during Spring. Existing solar heaters MIGHT work, but with the water not moving, this could be hard. A structure won't do unless you can maintain a temperature above 33 degrees...

2007-09-06 21:44:39 · answer #3 · answered by Robb 5 · 0 1

If they're collecting run-off, won't it be empty in wintertime?
I'd first stick foam insulation on the sides to limit heat loss.
Then perhaps a wind-driven circulating pump & solar panel.

2007-09-06 21:46:31 · answer #4 · answered by Robert S 7 · 1 1

dig a hole and put it in that. make it deep so you dont have to worry about it freezing.

2007-09-06 21:47:07 · answer #5 · answered by loco_sue 3 · 0 2

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