Bird vs. Jordan vs. kobe vs. Lebrone?

Question

in a game of 21 who takes it

my fault i spelled lebron wrong owell but whos gonna take it in 21??

Answer 1

Since this is a game of 1-on-1, it really depends on who has the hot hand that day. It'll be pretty premature to say a player could take on all 3 opposing defenders without the threat of having any teammates to dish it out to. If Bird, Kobe, and LeBron were to collapse the entire defense on MJ, it would be very challenging if not impossible for Jordan to score on a consistent basis. However, since we're talking about a pickup game of 1-on-1, I would take the player who has the best combination of outside shooting, 1-on-1 moves, and killer instincts on defense. Bird has no defense, LeBron's outside shot has been questionable at best (until the Olympics), and Kobe doesn't score with the field goal efficiency that MJ has had for a career. I'll even back that up by saying MJ has a 49.7% field percentage average for a career while Kobe career FG percentages is 45.3%. Even if I were to give him the beneift of the doubt and take Kobe's best field goal percentage season (which was 46.8 % when he played with Shaq) but that still dwarfs in comparison to MJ's numbers. Gotta go with MJ on this one.

Answer 2

i wish that's a severe question. team one million won't even have of project at defeating the terrific in NBA historic past. Magic and Jordan will destroy Kobe and Paul, Magic has greater velocity and talents than Paul has and upload 3-4 greater inches, on a similar time as Jordan is a god damned Beast. James might do nicely, yet chicken is hela stable besides. If it replaced right into a game to 21, the terrific interior the historic past of the NBA might defeat at present's stars 21-10.

Answer 3

Jordan would get killed 3 on 1! Stop stooping to Kobe's level of basketball intelligence, KING!

But 4 players free for all playing in a square floor with a basketball goal on four sides? In prime condition, Jordan will win! LOL.

But currently, it's Lebron. Michael is old, even his sons said they can beat him. And Larry is even older. And between Lebron and Kobe, Lebron is a more accurate shooter even from the perimeter as we see from the FIBA Americas. Lebron also had more steals and less turnovers.

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Proof:
Lebron made more shoots than Kobe.
Lebron took just as many shots as Kobe.
Lebron had more steals than Kobe.
Lebron had more rebounds than Kobe.
Lebron had more assists than Kobe.
Kobe, however, had more free throw attempts and made them at a higher percentage too.

Let's single out perimeter shooting. Both took 37 shots. Lebron made his favorite number, 23. Kobe made 17. I dunno about your mathematical skills, but 23 is more than 17!

Lebron is better at defense and offense.
http://www.usabasketball.com/seniormen/2007/stats/USA.HTM#team.ind

The best proof is when the players have the same coach and the same players around them.

Try proving otherwise, Celticpride. You got nothing! If you have no proof but your opinions, stop calling others biased when they have proof and you don't. Who's ignorant now? Who doesn't look at the facts when this is the one scenario that has Kobe and Lebron starting on the same "options" for my lack of other words I could think of.

Edit:
CelticPride, if you're going to take give history lessons, how about compare Lebron's 4 year career to Kobe's first 4 years? Even with Shaq, Kobe's first 4 years cannot be compared to Lebron's. Heck, why don't we compare Kobe's first four "good" years against Lebron's first 4 years.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/kobe_bryant/career_stats.html
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/lebron_james/career_stats.html

Is that enough sample for you?

Not to mention Kobe had some big guy drawing double and triple teams in the middle that should have given Kobe wide-open shots.

Sure, Kobe more experience, two years ago, I would have said Kobe will whip Lebron's behind. But Kobe has been passed by Lebron already.

I'm not even a Lebron fan. Sure, I enjoy his game, but if you're talking about fan "fanaticism" as with your level of love for Kobe, I'm a fan of Steve Nash. I don't enjoy Kobe's game because he's selfish, two guys are wide-open and Kobe only passes at the last moment. Way to put pressure on your teammates.

Answer 4

D-Man made an ignorant statement: There is no way in hell that Lebron is a better perimeter shooter than Kobe. If you are going to make absurd claims, then back them up. Until then I advise you to actually look at what you've written before you post.

There's nothing wrong with disliking Kobe and preferring Lebron, but if you do, please do us all a favor, and point out legitimate aspects of the game in which Lebron is superior to Kobe. Hate to break it to you, but perimeter shooting is not one of those aspects.

And if you want evidence of how Kobe is the better perimeter shooter, I will readily provide it; just don't make any more ridiculous statements.

Edit: First of all there was no name calling, I merely said that you wrote something very ignorant. That does not mean you are ignorant; just that your statement was.

Now, you don't seem stupid, so listen. You have very faulty logic: A ten game span is too small of a sample size to accurately judge two players. Was Lebron more spectacular in these FIBA games, at least on the offensive end? No doubt about it. Is he the better shooter? No.

As an apparent Lebron fan, I'm sure you can acknowledge that he had a very bad series against the Spurs? In 4 games, he played bad-if I was to judge him as a player based on that, it would be well, completely inaccurate. Lebron is generally a much better player than he was in that series. So, you see judging a player on a such a small sample size of games paints an inaccurate portrayal of the players.

Let's try judging them on a fair amount of games so that we get an accurate portrayal of the players. We'll judge them on 82 games; the length of an NBA season. I don't want to sound condescending, but I wonder if you've heard of TS% (true shooting percentage)? It's a statistic provided by basketball-reference.com that measures efficiency of a player's shots from every single place on the court-which includes the free throw line and three point line. (TS% was invented by John Hollinger who's now a writer for ESPN.com. He is widely regarded as one of most knowledgeable people regarding more of the complex NBA stats (such as PER, eFG%, Usage rate, Assist Rate, Rebound Rate, etc.)) Anyways, in this past NBA season Kobe shot a higher TS% than Lebron, .555 to .58, a definite difference.

Not convinced? That's fine, I wouldn't be either if someone was arguing that a higher TS% automatically equaled a better shooter. But it has to hold some weight, since both players aer perimeter-oriented players, and since we're not comparing a big to a small.

Anyways here's more evidence: In perimeter shots this past season over an 82 game span (perimeter shots- shots relatively close to the three point line, at it, or behind it)

Kobe shot 377-957: 39.4%. Not at all bad for perimeter shooting.

Lebron shot 233-691: 33.7%. That is a considerable amount of difference. Despite taking less perimeter shots, Lebron still shot a significantly worse percentage from outside.

As for that argument saying that players should be judged when they have similar teammates-ridiculous. If everyone shared that logic we wouldn't be able to compare most players to each other, would we?

So, that's it, I've given my answer. If you can refute my statistics then by all means try. But if you don't give a reasonable response this time, I won't bother answering. Basically, a 10 game span is way to short a time to judge two players to each other.

And as for your crack about Lebron being a better defender than Kobe- that's wrong too. Why do you think Kobe guarded the other team's best scorer in FIBA? Because he was the best defender on the team even though his defense has slipped in recent years. Either way, Lebron isn't near as good a defender as Kobe because he is much slower laterally.

Oh, and you might want to fix something in your post: Kobe did in fact get more steals than Lebron during FIBA, though I'll admit that steals or blocks is no indicator for determing the better defender.

BTW, I'm sorry if I came off as condescending, it's just annoying to me when people make incorrect claims. I'm sure your generally a good poster, so sorry if I came off as harsh.

Answer 5

You can't tell because 5 on 5 basketball is different than playing 21. Anybody could win (if you meant Bird and Jordan in their prime). If you thumbs me down then you don't play basketball yourself.

Answer 6

jordan would win no doubt but bird would score mad point that guy never misses 1.Jordan 2. Bird 3.Bryant 4. James

Answer 7

Jordan would beat all 3 in a game of 3 on 1.

MICHAEL JORDAN IS THE GREATEST!

Answer 8

Jordan and lebron

Answer 9

1.Jordan 2.LeBron 3.Bird 4.Bryant
Carmelo Anthony is raw

Answer 10

I assume it's in their prime. If Bird shoots first, its all over because even if they triple him, he knows he can't miss. If he doesn't, Jordan finds a way to win. Because Jordan is simply the most willing to cut someone in order to win.