show me an example of a country who's government run health care system actually works?

Question

High quality, without long wait times, beaurecratic red tape, restrictions on what is urgent and crushing taxes. that actually works!

Answer 1

OK, how about Cuba?

Much better health system than the US. More doctors and a lower death rate per 1000 people than the US. And that is also having to cope with a US blockade.

How about Germany and Canada?

In Germany we pay pay health insurance which is mediated through private companies and the government. It is cheaper than private health care.

Note the 3rd link which ranks health care systems. The US come 37th while countries like Britain, Portugal, and Spain, which all have national public health care rank above the US in the top 20. rance also has a social security system and ranks number 1.

Cuba is 2 places below the US and considering the blockade and economic hardship, that is some achievement and an embarrassment to the US. Canada also ranks above the US.

I guess making money is more important than quality health care in America.

Answer 2

The French and Canadian systems work...according to...the French and the Canadians.

Both recieve high quality attention and waiting times are a reality in all systems INCLUDING OUR OWN. I waited 3 months for an eye examination righrt here in the US of A. The ONLY way to avoid bureaucratic red tape, and restrictions as to what is urgent...is to be wealthy enough to operate outside the "systems". That applies to here AND there.

The very nature of taxation will always be contentious. It matters LITTLE the nature of the tax. Some of us pay our taxes grudgingly as the price of democracy. Others enjoy all of the benefits of democracy, but don't feel that a tax need be applied. Some pay their taxes because they believe that they're helping to fund the programs that ensure a high quality of life for all. Still others believe that taxes should only be applied to the national defense.

NONE of these good or bad reasons for taxes matter in the end. They are a requirement. The monies will be used as CONGRESS sees fit, within a broad ( ...and still broadening) Constitutionally mandated spectrum. Freedom is NOT free and neither is a SHARED-COST system that COULD benefit millions of OUR people, Americans, with the security of a visit to the doctor's office. Not a crowded Emergency Room where too often it's too late to do any good...or you're not BLEEDING ENOUGH.

You and I can afford to have this debate. I, and I'm sure you, too, will be fine one way or the other. Think of the ones who can only wait until we've finished hurling insults and invectives about each others ideology, principles, and sanity. We Americans are the BEST FRIENDS to ANY PEOPLE around the GLOBE in their time(s) of calamity and crisis... unless you live ...next door !
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Answer 3

France has a few components that work well to offset costs by reducing doctor pay:

1) No lawsuits! If a doctor makes a mistake too bad, that's the risk you take.

2) Free medical school. No selling drugs full time to pay back college debt.

3) 100% Patient choice. If one doctor has a long wait time, you go to another one. Government doesn't tell you who you can see.

They still have crushing taxes, AND the majority of the population is buying private insurance on top of that, but at the end of the day they spend less on medical per person and for better results.

Of course, knowing how our politicians cave to the lawyer's lobby (most of our politicians ARE lawyers), this will never happen here.

Answer 4

The most comprehensive today is in France, and the second most is in Italy.

All of Europe has publicly sponsored and regulated health care. Countries include Austria, Belgium, Bosnia, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Reublic, Denmark, Finland, Estonia, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Lichtenstein, Luxembourg, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and the United Kingdom.

Answer 5

There are some nations that do have very good and prompt health care supplied by the government through taxes. Some nations are wealthy enough to have good care eventhough the individual does not pay enough in taxes to cover the costs. Also these are nations that are not increasing their populations. Eventually even they will have to make some drastic changes to keep good care for people.

Answer 6

Switzerland has one of the best systems in the world. It is far superior to the US in terms of access. It is also high quality, but it does come at a cost. Switzerland is second to the US in terms of amount of GDP spent. However, health outcomes are FAR better than the US counterpart.

The US has the second highest infant mortality rate in the modern world. There is something SERIOUSLY wrong with this system.

Answer 7

Why? If you don't like socialized medicine, I understand. It has its 'cons'. But so does a 'free market' like the U.S. I assume that your opinion is that the U.S. has a better system. GREAT! Good for you...you are living in the right country, then. Why not be happy and move on to an issue that actually affects your life?

Answer 8

LOL Show me a place with chocolate rivers and gum drop trees. It does not work because socialism does not work.


Larry O we are surrounded by fools that wish to give up their freedoms and live in a world that does not exist.

Answer 9

We're still waiting for one. As soon as that happens Hillary would be there taking notes. Trust me I'm a native Spaniard. It only works if you're willing to die waiting to be cared for.

Answer 10

And the US health-care options are:

a) have a job that covers most of it
b) pay $500 / month for health insurance
c) go without it and face the consequences (death, bankrupt, disabled, etc)